SkimaskMohawk Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yea they're forgeworld; the chaos version of the Cerberus heavy tank destroyer and the whirlwind Scorpius. Lord is a chaos lord for rerolls. Chaos holds a big advantage in that their Cerberus has BS 2, an extra shot an extra point of AP and an extra minimum damage for a total of 20 minimum dmg at -6 if you wound everytime (very high chance). The Scorpius can be spammed unlike in normal marine lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I was under the impression at one point you could only have one 30k-era unit in your army (per the Relics of the Armory rules), to limit your ability to spamming 30k vehicles in 40k only to 30k, with a few exceptions. Does anything like that exist in the new FW Index? (I dont have my copy yet - sounds strong though!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 Spacemarines have a rule that restricts relic units. Chaos doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Still like that for Loyalists. Chaos doesn't have that limitation due to keywords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Oh neat, good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 So what do my fellow Shadow Captains think of a Lieutenant with a Jump Pack, MC Boltgun, and the Teeth of Terra for an HQ right around 16 Melta Bombs? Thinking of pairing him with a Jump Chappy for reroll Boogaloo or a Jump Librarian to amp him up. Probably use Sternguard legs, and fancy bolter, and a Vanguard torso and jump pack. Any suggestions for the teeth? Also, how should I denote him being a lieutenant, given our Chapter's distinct markings? White arms of course, but what about the beaky helmet? duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Concerning marking: the Primaris primer in Dark Imperium suggested the Lieutenant had a black helmet. If the PA Lieutenant is treated the same way, then the helmet would be black with white arms. If the skull sigil was used on the left pad, that could be enough to denote his position within the detatchment/company/Chapter. Or maybe use a white stripe on the helmet? I may do that actually ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcyon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Sounds good to me, I'll be running mine supporting some Aggressors with SftS, so a JP HQ is perfect to land bubblewrapped by the shooty unit he's buffing. Plus, if you make him the Warlord, he can use that Storm of Fire trait! Re: ranking, I thought the Primaris primer showed a form of Veteran Sergeant livery; that is, standard helmet color (for Primaris) with a red stripe sandwiched by white stripes. Obviously this isn't ideal for RG who aren't quite as codex compliant! I would feel weird giving a Lieutenant a white helmet if my veterans had white helmets and normal troopers had black. If you aren't using red to denote sergeants in the rest of your force, why not use red on a white helmet to denote Lieutenancy? My force is going a bit unorthodox, running white faces (can't remember which frater I stole that from) for all marines. No white arms and no white helms for veterans, just white trim on the right hand (marine's right) shoulder pad and the Elite transfer. Then Sergeants have red helms with white faces, with no unique Veteran Sergeant marking since they already have a red helm and white pad trim. So my Lieutenant will likely have a "normal" helmet, Company color on his right shoulder pad trim, and an HQ transfer and then just have fancier armor or something like that to show his status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 That shows Ultramarine (i.e. Codex) style. I meant from with the DI box, which shows the LT with a black helmet. But that's for Primaris. As RG can use white helmets for officers, then a middle-ground could be a stripe I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Heres how I've done my foot and jump Lt's Sternguard legs would be neat, I only had spare Mk7 Tac marine legs... Even maybe some Mk3 or 4 would be neat? I think I used a left over VV chest + ASM pack for my foot guy. No hints as to where I sourced my jump Lt from! The VV chainswords are fairly elaborate, why not use them? Beaky helmet is a must (although in my army if they dont have a Corvus helmet, its because theyre not wearing a helmet ;) ) Hrmm I hadn't thought about markings I had just assumed he would be white helmet + white arms irrespective of Primaris or regular Marines My VV Sgt's are white + white so I'm not sure why a high rank would be even less? You could argue he doesn't need the white arm's because he might not necessarily be 1st Co? I haven't gone through all the fluff in my codex yet, does it say where they are sourced from and where they fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I am thinking black helmet with white face/beak. Any ideas for what to use for the Teeth of Terra? So awesome that I pay the points for the Chainsword it replaces. The guys at my local club say just use a fancy Chainsword from the Vanguard box. SyNidus and Sharrowkyn 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcyon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 You could buy the Gabriel Seth model and file off all the resin Flesh Tearers iconography... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrowkyn Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 For Teeth of Terra I'd use the Eviscerator from the Forgeworld MkIII power weapons set! A lot to pay for one chainsword but lots of other useful weapons for the bits box there too! https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-MKIII-Power-Weapons-Set Alcyon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 So what do my fellow Shadow Captains think of a Lieutenant with a Jump Pack, MC Boltgun, and the Teeth of Terra for an HQ right around 16 Melta Bombs? Been using one with the Primarchs Wrath and he's been great with my Raptors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 So what do my fellow Shadow Captains think of a Lieutenant with a Jump Pack, MC Boltgun, and the Teeth of Terra for an HQ right around 16 Melta Bombs? Been using one with the Primarchs Wrath and he's been great with my Raptors. I bet you miss Nihilus, and Ex Tenebris as much as I do as well. Alcyon, Race Bannon and Nusquam 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I converted Telion with Anvil parts to represent Nihilus. Never got to use him. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluthusten Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I love the Lieutenant-Idea with teeth and JP, fits perfect for my Aggressors with "Storm of fire" - trait :D what do you guys think is the best setup for a Ancient? I wanna play 1 to support the Aggressors too. deployed with stft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 I can see an ancient with aggressors being annoying, but on the whole I haven't really seen the attraction of ancients. Shooting again is nice, but other than dakka aggros, models don't really have enough shooting to make the 50/50 worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluthusten Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I played the Ancient with the Relicbanner (3+) in a Gunline with 6 Agressors, 5 Hellblaster, 1 Captain in range and a Lieutenant in range. And the Banner was pretty awesome. Nusquam 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Yes, that relic Standard is awesome, especially with SFTS, and walk the enemy into that -1Ld bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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