cadian_shock Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I made a tool for MathHammer-ing in 8th edition http://www.mathhammer8thed.com/ Features: • Supports d6, 2d6, 2d3, d3, etc for Shots and Damage • Supports re-roll to hit for all misses or ones • Supports re-roll to hit for all failed wounds or ones • Supports ignoring wounds on a 6+, 5+, 4+, 3+ and 2+ • Output number of hits, wounds, unsaved wounds and models killed • No ads • Works on mobile • Works best on Desktop Any ideas? Let me know! duz_, m0nolith, Stylian_StHugh and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylian_StHugh Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I'm not sure if your D6 or more function on damage is working. Also needs 2D6 Pick Highest function Good tool overall though, best I've seen for this edition cadian_shock 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4839977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadian_shock Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 I'm not sure if your D6 or more function on damage is working. Also needs 2D6 Pick Highest function Good tool overall though, best I've seen for this edition I made some fixes about an hour ago - that might have solved the issue you found? And thanks for the kind words! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4840040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcyon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Been using this a lot - thanks! Very cool! Last time I tried it I think I was having some issues stacking multiple buff auras, i.e. re-roll ones to hit plus re-rolls to wound, etc. not sure how that all works. cadian_shock 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4850775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadian_shock Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Been using this a lot - thanks! Very cool! Last time I tried it I think I was having some issues stacking multiple buff auras, i.e. re-roll ones to hit plus re-rolls to wound, etc. not sure how that all works. Can you retry and if its wrong let me know your inputs that broke it? I also just made an update to allow auto hits (flamers) and fixed a bug for weapons that were D > 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4852609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcyon Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Ah, maybe I was confusing it with http://mathhammer8th.surge.sh/? This version doesn't seem to have the ability to add +X or -X to rolls. Looks like the re-roll modifiers work smoothly though, nice work! cadian_shock 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4852633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadian_shock Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just added Sniper ability! Alcyon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4861483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcyon Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 You know what else would be cool, is points per model of shooting unit and points per model of victim. Also, the ability to enter two sets of stats at once and compare them on the same view. Thanks again for this rad tool! cadian_shock 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4873776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnboardG1 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Nice tool, I've been math-hammering by hand and it's a headache (literally). Do you have support for 2d6 pick the highest like for a meltagun? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4877014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Just heard your cameo on Combat Phase!Glad that this is a thing will definitely be checking it out! :D :tu: cadian_shock 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4878992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadian_shock Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) Now Mathhammer 8th Edition has multiple unit profiles for attacking! Just heard your cameo on Combat Phase!Glad that this is a thing will definitely be checking it out! Combat Phase? You know what else would be cool, is points per model of shooting unit and points per model of victim. Also, the ability to enter two sets of stats at once and compare them on the same view. Thanks again for this rad tool! You can do up to 5 attacking profiles Edited September 12, 2017 by cadian_shock Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4883771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I question the way you calculate your probabilities for the To Hit roll. Let's consider a space marine (hit on 3+) near a chapter master (reroll all failed rolls to hit). Your app gives an 88.889% hit rate which I guess you obtain by doing (4/6)+(2/6)*(4/6). If you draw a tree of all possible outcomes, you obtain "only" 75% : Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 1 - fail Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 2 - fail Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 3 - hit Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 4 - hit Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 5 - hit Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 6 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 1 - fail Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 2 - fail Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 3 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 4 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 5 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 6 - hit Roll a 3 - hit Roll a 4 - hit Roll a 5 - hit Roll a 6 - hit 16 possible outcomes, 12 successes > 75% Am I doing it wrong ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4888468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 *chapter approved! With Tibbs /brain fart Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4888493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrys Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 16 possible outcomes, 12 successes > 75% 12 / 16 = 0.75 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4888590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadian_shock Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 16 possible outcomes, 12 successes > 75% 12 / 16 = 0.75 I am not getting email notifications from the forum so I have only just seen this. I will check it and get back to you. Also, update.. - Melta ability - The 1 dice Salamander re-rolls Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4893916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrys Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Hey, cadian -- I don't know if this is interesting or not, but: I had been working on a sort of simulator thing too. It basically runs a unit against another unit in some specific scenario (shooting or assault or shoot-once-then-assault, which was supposed to sort of represent deep striking, but maybe that is not accurate anymore, etc), simulating all of the die rolls, etc. It's a command line program, but I put a very-half-assed web UI into it here: http://www.aurumvorax.com/40ksim/do-battle.php?battle_type=shoot-once-then-assault&num_matches=1&unit1=10-gh-2plasma-wgpl-melee.txt&unit2=3-oblits.txt You can run it one at a time and see the full results, or you can run a large number of battles and get an aggregate of the results. e.g. when the tooled-up grey hunters go first, they win 88% of the time against the obliterators, in an average of 2 turns, with 6 guys left alive after. If the oblits go first, they win 57% of the time. One thing that's useful is e.g. I can do a comparison of different power weapons. I suffer from generating way too much data and not really having the statistical chops to make sense of it, but I'll post here a .csv (like a spreadsheet) of the efficiency of different power weapons (mounted on a power-armored wolf guard chassis) against different targets, if maybe somebody can make sense of it. I took that basically: pair of wolf claws is efficient in most scenarios. 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,0.67785-pawg-claw,130,heldrake-target-dummy,594,1000,0,0,6.931,2.162,428.076,5,130,0,0,0.838,165.924,61.7625,0.47515-pawg-sword,100,heldrake-target-dummy,594,919,0,81,7,1.003,198.594,5,100,0,0,1.997,395.406,28.3706,0.28375-pawg-axe,105,heldrake-target-dummy,594,902,0,98,7,1.001,198.198,5,105,0,0,1.999,395.802,28.3140,0.26975-pawg-frost-sword,115,heldrake-target-dummy,594,913,0,87,7,1.015,200.97,5,115,0,0,1.985,393.03,28.7100,0.24975-pawg-pp,115,heldrake-target-dummy,594,910,0,90,7,1.001,198.198,5,115,0,0,1.999,395.802,28.3140,0.24625-pawg-frost-axe,130,heldrake-target-dummy,594,910,0,90,7,1.019,201.762,5,130,0,0,1.981,392.238,28.8231,0.22175-pawg-cs,80,heldrake-target-dummy,594,554,0,446,7,0.558,110.484,5,80,0,0,2.442,483.516,15.7834,0.19735-pawg-maul,100,heldrake-target-dummy,594,536,0,464,7,0.539,106.722,5,100,0,0,2.461,487.278,15.2460,0.15255-pawg-hammer,180,knight-target-dummy,1362,1000,0,0,6.119,2.892,1312.97,5,180,0,0,0.108,49.032,214.5726,1.19215-pawg-claws,150,knight-target-dummy,1362,1000,0,0,7,1.791,813.114,5,150,0,0,1.209,548.886,116.1591,0.77445-pawg-fist,180,knight-target-dummy,1362,1000,0,0,6.983,1.993,904.822,5,180,0,0,1.007,457.178,129.5750,0.71995-pawg-claw,130,knight-target-dummy,1362,994,0,6,7,1.007,457.178,5,130,0,0,1.993,904.822,65.3111,0.50245-pawg-frost-sword,115,knight-target-dummy,1362,790,0,210,7,0.79,358.66,5,115,0,0,2.21,1003.34,51.2371,0.44555-pawg-axe,105,knight-target-dummy,1362,343,0,657,7,0.343,155.722,5,105,0,0,2.657,1206.28,22.2460,0.21195-pawg-frost-axe,130,knight-target-dummy,1362,351,0,649,7,0.351,159.354,5,130,0,0,2.649,1202.65,22.7649,0.17515-pawg-maul,100,knight-target-dummy,1362,47,0,953,7,0.047,21.338,5,100,0,0,2.953,1340.66,3.0483,0.03055-pawg-sword,100,knight-target-dummy,1362,8,0,992,7,0.008,3.632,5,100,0,0,2.992,1358.37,0.5189,0.00525-pawg-pp,115,knight-target-dummy,1362,4,0,996,7,0.004,1.816,5,115,0,0,2.996,1360.18,0.2594,0.00235-pawg-cs,80,knight-target-dummy,1362,0,0,1000,7,0,0,5,80,0,0,3,1362,0.0000,0.00005-pawg-hammer,180,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,1000,0,0,5.65,2.92,922.72,5,180,0,0,0.08,25.28,163.3133,0.90735-pawg-fist,180,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,1000,0,0,6.751,2.471,780.836,5,180,0,0,0.529,167.164,115.6623,0.64265-pawg-claws,150,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,1000,0,0,6.992,1.968,621.888,5,150,0,0,1.032,326.112,88.9428,0.59305-pawg-claw,130,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,996,0,4,7,1.136,358.976,5,130,0,0,1.864,589.024,51.2823,0.39455-pawg-frost-sword,115,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,924,0,76,7,0.932,294.512,5,115,0,0,2.068,653.488,42.0731,0.36595-pawg-axe,105,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,544,0,456,7,0.544,171.904,5,105,0,0,2.456,776.096,24.5577,0.23395-pawg-frost-axe,130,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,571,0,429,7,0.571,180.436,5,130,0,0,2.429,767.564,25.7766,0.19835-pawg-sword,100,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,86,0,914,7,0.086,27.176,5,100,0,0,2.914,920.824,3.8823,0.03885-pawg-maul,100,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,74,0,926,7,0.074,23.384,5,100,0,0,2.926,924.616,3.3406,0.03345-pawg-pp,115,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,11,0,989,7,0.011,3.476,5,115,0,0,2.989,944.524,0.4966,0.00435-pawg-cs,80,land-raider-crusader-target-dummy,948,0,0,1000,7,0,0,5,80,0,0,3,948,0.0000,0.00005-pawg-cs,80,poxwalker-target-dummy,255,1000,0,0,5.413,50.999,254.995,5,80,0,0,0.001,0.005,47.1079,0.58885-pawg-pp,115,poxwalker-target-dummy,360,1000,0,0,6.852,70.419,352.095,5,115,0,0,1.581,7.905,51.3857,0.44685-pawg-maul,100,poxwalker-target-dummy,315,1000,0,0,6.941,60.07,300.35,5,100,0,0,2.93,14.65,43.2719,0.43275-pawg-claws,150,poxwalker-target-dummy,465,1000,0,0,6.963,90.164,450.82,5,150,0,0,2.836,14.18,64.7451,0.43165-pawg-sword,100,poxwalker-target-dummy,315,1000,0,0,6.999,51.628,258.14,5,100,0,0,11.372,56.86,36.8824,0.36885-pawg-claw,130,poxwalker-target-dummy,405,1000,0,0,7,65.957,329.785,5,130,0,0,15.043,75.215,47.1121,0.36245-pawg-axe,105,poxwalker-target-dummy,330,1000,0,0,7,51.769,258.845,5,105,0,0,14.231,71.155,36.9779,0.35225-pawg-frost-axe,130,poxwalker-target-dummy,405,1000,0,0,7,62.459,312.295,5,130,0,0,18.541,92.705,44.6136,0.34325-pawg-frost-sword,115,poxwalker-target-dummy,360,1000,0,0,7,52.146,260.73,5,115,0,0,19.854,99.27,37.2471,0.32395-pawg-hammer,180,poxwalker-target-dummy,555,1000,0,0,7,66.735,333.675,5,180,0,0,44.265,221.325,47.6679,0.26485-pawg-fist,180,poxwalker-target-dummy,555,1000,0,0,7,62.204,311.02,5,180,0,0,48.796,243.98,44.4314,0.24685-pawg-hammer,180,rhino-target-dummy,642,1000,0,0,4.556,6,642,5,180,0,0,0,0,140.9131,0.78295-pawg-fist,180,rhino-target-dummy,642,1000,0,0,5.807,5.974,639.218,5,180,0,0,0.026,2.782,110.0771,0.61155-pawg-claws,150,rhino-target-dummy,642,1000,0,0,6.983,4.978,532.646,5,150,0,0,1.022,109.354,76.2775,0.50855-pawg-claw,130,rhino-target-dummy,642,1000,0,0,7,3.306,353.742,5,130,0,0,2.694,288.258,50.5346,0.38875-pawg-sword,100,rhino-target-dummy,321,1000,0,0,6.847,2.37,253.59,5,100,0,0,0.63,67.41,37.0367,0.37045-pawg-frost-sword,115,rhino-targ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I have the start of a game simulator, where there are multiple units on each team and I can put in different AI heuristics to determine how they move and shoot, run 1000 games and see which list wins. I have aspirations of eventually putting some kind of neural net or genetic algorithm in there and see if I can get that to work. Then eventually maybe my laptop can crush my enemies and I just need to paint what it tells me to paint...(the machine spirit!) There are a lot of things missing (some special rules, embarking in transports, power fists do 2 damage instead of d3, etc), obviously. But it's sort of fun. In practice, I guess it just means I spend time doing this instead of painting space wolves... Anyway, I'm obviously happy to talk about this kind of thing in excruciating detail, if you're interested? Edited September 24, 2017 by jerrys duz_ and cadian_shock 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4894128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingleir Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Laser destroyer does d6+ damage. D6 damage then roll a d6 and 2-5 = extra d6 damage and 6 = extra 2d6 damage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4904409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Ciler i think it's that the first 12 results don't have the same probabilty to happen as the last 4. The last four are all 1/6. Where the first 12 are all 1/36. Gah been too long since i had to do any stats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4912246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I love it and appreciate the work you put into it. On my wishlist is the option to include -x to hit and rerolls. This is tricky since you apply rerolls, then to hit mods :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4962075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) I question the way you calculate your probabilities for the To Hit roll. Let's consider a space marine (hit on 3+) near a chapter master (reroll all failed rolls to hit). Your app gives an 88.889% hit rate which I guess you obtain by doing (4/6)+(2/6)*(4/6). If you draw a tree of all possible outcomes, you obtain "only" 75% : Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 1 - fail Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 2 - fail Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 3 - hit Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 4 - hit Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 5 - hit Roll a 1, reroll and obtain 6 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 1 - fail Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 2 - fail Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 3 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 4 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 5 - hit Roll a 2, reroll and obtain 6 - hit Roll a 3 - hit Roll a 4 - hit Roll a 5 - hit Roll a 6 - hit 16 possible outcomes, 12 successes > 75% Am I doing it wrong ? I’m afraid you are, but you’re not the only one. As Grandmasterloser also pointed out, the individual probabilities of outcomes 13-16 are not the same as those for outcomes 1-12. Essentially, your model suggests that, because rolling a 1 or 2 would trigger a re-roll, the chance of rolling 1 or 2 on the first die is increased 6-fold. By your table of outcomes, you have a 6/16 chance of rolling a 1 but a 1/16 chance of rolling a 6 on the first die. The correct method is to say: To hit is EITHER hit on first dice (4/6 ie 2/3) OR miss on first dice (1/3) AND hit on second dice (2/3). In probability mathematics, OR is treated as addition and AND is treated as multiplication. So, Probability to hit = 2/3 + (1/3*2/3) = 8/9 = 0.89. Alternatively, calculate the chance of missing: i.e. miss on 1st dice AND miss on re-roll = 1/3 * 1/3 = 1/9. Therefore, chance to hit (because total probability of all possibilities, i.e. hit and miss, must equal 1) = 1 - 1/9 = 8/9 = 0.89 = 88.89%. Edited December 21, 2017 by Plasmablasts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4965201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Grandmasterloser! I like that! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4965320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Grandmasterloser! I like that! :D Doh! 9th Brotherhood? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4965362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Fo sho! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-4965430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadian_shock Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 MathHammer now has + and - modifiers for wound and hit rolls. And probably some other stuff since I updated this thread, like a Return on Investment calculator. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337407-mathhammer-40k-8th-edition/#findComment-5042133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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