Stylian_StHugh Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I don't like them overall. Take up a valuable Elite slot and the CC just does their job better. Only use I can see for them is going with an over extended unit (Conscripts on a flank or Vets in a Valkyries) What other Elite options do you find more critical? I run Elysians now (still salty about Renegades getting the nerf bat so hard). So I need Command Squads and Officer of the Fleet. I did run Snipers for a few weeks but currently not. May trial an Airborne Vet type list shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 It makes a lot of sense that they get the special weapons. A Company Commander is going to ensure their bodyguards have the best weapons available, are they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 No, because a command squad is not a frontline combat unit. Having a couple of special weapons, sure, but the principal purpose of the squad is support staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 No, because a command squad is not a frontline combat unit. Having a couple of special weapons, sure, but the principal purpose of the squad is support staff. That's not true at all. Bear in mind that the command group is where you'd find a platoon's mortar and anti-tank weapon. Granted, a company command squad would likely be more staff/adviser--based than weapon-based though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcolepticltd Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Something to note if you're running an Elysian list: The Elysian Platoon Commander can take melta bombs for free :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrans Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Got to say the Krieg Field Officer is a nice, cheap investment for 23 points. For 3 points you get +1 AS, +1LD and he is now in the HQ slot... GOLD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 No, because a command squad is not a frontline combat unit. Having a couple of special weapons, sure, but the principal purpose of the squad is support staff. That's not true at all. Bear in mind that the command group is where you'd find a platoon's mortar and anti-tank weapon. Granted, a company command squad would likely be more staff/adviser--based than weapon-based though. This conversation illustrates the problem with command squads in this edition: they have no defined role. It used to be the unit your commanders were in. Great. Now it's morphed into a strange pseudo-elite group of veterans with unfettered access to the arms room. I hope the codex provides a better use for them in the overall order of battle. iceman2160, MithrilForge and walter h 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 No, because a command squad is not a frontline combat unit. Having a couple of special weapons, sure, but the principal purpose of the squad is support staff. That's not true at all. Bear in mind that the command group is where you'd find a platoon's mortar and anti-tank weapon. Granted, a company command squad would likely be more staff/adviser--based than weapon-based though. This conversation illustrates the problem with command squads in this edition: they have no defined role. It used to be the unit your commanders were in. Great. Now it's morphed into a strange pseudo-elite group of veterans with unfettered access to the arms room. I hope the codex provides a better use for them in the overall order of battle. There's another issues though which is that (heavy weapons notwithstanding) most of the roles performed by a RL command squad aren't much use in a tabletop game. What exactly is a command squad sergeant going to do? Or a batsman (the commander's personal assistant)? Or a runner? Serious question - do we even need a Command Squad at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hrmmm, it would appear too much recaff and stims and not enough combat prep and action, leads to Guardsmen being disoriented. Command Squad discussion should be conducted here. And remember and disparaging remarks about senior officers will result in an immediate trip to the Commissary! Carry on soldiers! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcottr Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Simply put, my CCs have caps and my PCs have helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcottr Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Just dawned on me. Platoon Commanders should be an HQ choice, with the option to take up to 3 in one slot. Similar to the Space Marine Lieutenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 They are good in the elite section. Otherwise we could spam 3cp detachments easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman Bob Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Redacted Edited September 6, 2017 by Guardsman Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcottr Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Thanks to Platoon Commanders being elites, I can easily muster a brigade for less than 1000 pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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