Karhedron Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Or a very skilled and capable warrior who was already towards the top of his peers from the Horus Heresy era ... *cough* Azkaellon *cough* ..... who maybe now has even more powers and prowess, such as his ancient body becomes a vessel of a fragment of our primarch's power at times of great need? Azkaellon isn't the Sanguinor. Check out "Herald of Sanguinius" for the Sanguinor's origins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Yep, that's the original Sanguinor. Given that the original is almost certainly dead, and we haven't been told who or what the current incarnation is under the mask, it could be anyone or anything. Edited September 18, 2017 by Lord_Caerolion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Double post. Edited September 18, 2017 by Lord_Caerolion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrown Pommel Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 My "Perfect World" Wishlist Chapter Tactic: +1 to wound in combat. Jump Pack units may charge after advancing. Stratagems: Descent of Angels: Use when a Jump Pack unit enters via deep strike. This unit may charge on 3D6. (1CP) Overcharged Engines: Pick a vehicle in the shooting phase. It can fire after advancing w/o penalty. (1CP) Airborne Assault: you may place one/two more unit(s) in reserves w/o it counting towards the "only half" rule in matched play (1/3CP) Red Thirst: A unit that has consolidated into another unit during the fight phase (ex: after wiping a unit) may immediately fight again (2CP) -Most of the generic Space Marine Stratagems Points Costs and other Misc. Items: Bring costs in line with Space Marine Codex Death Company: Down in points or 5+ FNP save, or both! Sanguinary Guard: cheaper angelus bolter Inferno Pistol: 8-10 points Hand Flamer: 4 points Dante: +2 CP if warlord Unique Dreadnoughts: significant points decrease Sanguinor with a Primarch Statline, LOW force org slot, and Girlyman sized model! (its not Sanguinius i swear!) If we get even half of these things I'd be so happy! SM1981 and Morticon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdle-durdle Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I really hope Baal predators get move+shoot without penalty or some way to come in from weird angles like outflank or something. As is they're super overcosted for +1 wound and roll 2d6 pick the highest when advancing. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I really want Baal Predators to both advance and cook things. Otherwise overcharged engines should just be represented by the tank having a higher base movement value. OC engines as a stratagem more vehicles can use isn't a bad idea either though. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Perhaps a tribute to the lucifer armoured strike force? A stratagem that lets 1 -3 Baals and 1 Land raider take a move after setting up, after rolling for who starts (We play with chapter approved +1 if you finish first) but before rolling to sieze the initative? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4889975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixzion Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I think a return of rhino rush would be really cool. The rule would probably be along the lines of allowing BA to disembark from a transport after it has moved instead of at the start of the movement. Considering how GW has been making all kind of references to older rules and stuff lately I think this might be even plausible Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Please no! The Rhino rush was an aberration best consigned to the dustbin of history. It took a unit intended for tactical deployments and troop protection and turned into nothing more than an assault springboard. Blood Angels should be soaring through the skies like the Primarch, not cowering in metal boxes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I'm not saying I want to see 3rd edition rhino rush return, but I would suggest that jump packs are limited and every battle brother deserves to get up close and personal if their sergeant will allow it lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Overcharged engines and better jump pack control should not be stratagems. There is nothing in the fluff that the lucifer engines have a fuel issue, that would explain only being allowed to go faster for a limited time. Additionally there is no indication that the amount of speed boosts is dependent on your army composition. A baal predator in a battalion detachment can move faster than a baal predator in a patrol detachment??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Actually, overcharged engines used to have a chance to break and immobilize a vehicle if they were used. So would typically not constantly be used. SM1981 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 My "Perfect World" Wishlist Chapter Tactic: +1 to wound in combat. Jump Pack units may charge after advancing. Stratagems: Descent of Angels: Use when a Jump Pack unit enters via deep strike. This unit may charge on 3D6. (1CP) Overcharged Engines: Pick a vehicle in the shooting phase. It can fire after advancing w/o penalty. (1CP) Airborne Assault: you may place one/two more unit(s) in reserves w/o it counting towards the "only half" rule in matched play (1/3CP) Red Thirst: A unit that has consolidated into another unit during the fight phase (ex: after wiping a unit) may immediately fight again (2CP) -Most of the generic Space Marine Stratagems Points Costs and other Misc. Items: Bring costs in line with Space Marine Codex Death Company: Down in points or 5+ FNP save, or both! Sanguinary Guard: cheaper angelus bolter Inferno Pistol: 8-10 points Hand Flamer: 4 points Dante: +2 CP if warlord Unique Dreadnoughts: significant points decrease Sanguinor with a Primarch Statline, LOW force org slot, and Girlyman sized model! (its not Sanguinius i swear!) If we get even half of these things I'd be so happy! 2 wounds on DC 5+ FNP And death blow type ability Would make DC worth their points. Like all the above though. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Actually, overcharged engines used to have a chance to break and immobilize a vehicle if they were used. So would typically not constantly be used. That would be a mechanic I could get behind, but it still makes no sense that other units in the army would determine the chance of breaking down (except maybe the number of techmarines). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4893532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixzion Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Please no! The Rhino rush was an aberration best consigned to the dustbin of history. It took a unit intended for tactical deployments and troop protection and turned into nothing more than an assault springboard. Blood Angels should be soaring through the skies like the Primarch, not cowering in metal boxes. To be fair I didn't play Blood Angels back in those days and didn't face a Blood Angels force then either. It was that bad, huh? But I have to agree, if this mechanic was introduced it would remove the need of jump packs for units. That doesn't sound very much Blood Angely to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4894121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think we might see a boost to infantry that can fly (so Jump packs) that means advance + charge across the board to help with speed. Tanks will probably get a bonus to advancing too with the boost of still being able to fire heavies etc Probably +1S on the charge too for lulz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4894321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Actually, overcharged engines used to have a chance to break and immobilize a vehicle if they were used. So would typically not constantly be used. That would be a mechanic I could get behind, but it still makes no sense that other units in the army would determine the chance of breaking down (except maybe the number of techmarines). Well, it can already determine how many times you can turn an auspex on, and also whether Salamanders can be good with fire, or White Scars be better with bikes, etc. it's a clear pattern now that they don't want the army-wide rules to focus on specific units, but rather keep unit-specific stuff as obtainable through Stratagems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4894481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Do we think we'll get the Primaris Apothecary, a Primaris Sanguinary Priest, or neither? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Do we think we'll get the Primaris Apothecary, a Primaris Sanguinary Priest, or neither? I think, like we did in the index with normal apothecary's (Noviate), we'll get "Primaris Sanguinary Priest" and it will tell us to use the options and model for the Primaris model. OR maybe the reason we aren't in this years batch of 'dexes is because we're getting new models. Who knows! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 So far we don't really know what GW's plans for models to accompany the new codices are. The SM range was left alone but shiny new Primaris models were added. Deathguard got a glut of new models but since it was basically a new army, that is not surprising. AdMech seem to have just got a codex with no models (apart from an individual release for Cawl). Considering their range is very new, this is not surprising. Guard, Eldar and Nids are all coming out in quick succession which suggests few or no new models. Off the top of my head, I bet the plastic Eldrad will be released as an individual model but not much else. I really find it very hard to guess whether BAs, DAs or SWs will get new models at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Since this is a thread for wishlisting and various dream like demands, what pose would you think a new Mephy should have if they redid the model?I personally want a very dynamic one. The Khârn pose is pretty dynamic so maybe something similar? Something with action! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Mephiston with his sword drawn, psychic fire activated and running/about to leap would be great imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Mephiston with his sword drawn, psychic fire activated and running/about to leap would be great imo. Maybe something like this? Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Nah way too static. Was more thinking about something like this actually: http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/goatboy.cypher.01.jpg Spagunk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Maybe something like this? Oh yeah! The existing model was very nice for its time, one of Jes Goodwin's classics but it is over 20 yars old now. Edited September 26, 2017 by Karhedronuk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339281-crazy-ideas-for-our-codex-whishlistin%C2%B4-conspiracies/page/2/#findComment-4895971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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