b1soul Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Has BL (or GW in general) addressed the possibility of Primaris GK anywhere, either directly or indirectly? What's the current status? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I would imagine that they would get them whenever they needed replacements. They would hardly be likely to use standard Astartes if new and better ones were available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I remember someone (was it Heri?) saying that there will be no Primaris Grey Knights due to them having the Emperor's Geneseed and thus, they are already superior to normal Astartes. Most likely (that's my assumption) for the same reason why there will be no Custodes Primaris, as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The Custodians are created via a different method so would not be able to be “Primaris-ed” Grey Knights are still Astartes. Although I believe their gene-seed is meant to be from The Emperor. I guess it’s never been mentioned if Cawl did anything with that or if he just improved the Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yeah...I agree that Primaris Custodes would not make much sense, but Primaris GK should be possible and, if so, desirable IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Eventually I think. MK9 armour needs to go somewhere after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yeah...I agree that Primaris Custodes would not make much sense, but Primaris GK should be possible and, if so, desirable IMO And that's how the Heresy started ;) Interimperium war will commence ;) Custodes Primaris, GK Primaris - everything Primaris. If SoS will sell well - they will create Sisters of Silence 'Primaris' too. I do appreciate that they need new models to sell well. But where should be some logical restrictions on 'Primaris' gegemony. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 They won't go back now. Primaris is a safer, stable and faster way to get marines. Why should they go back? Unless it goes horribly wrong somewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 You wait until Cawl restores The Emperor using the Tree of Life that Russ brings back. For one The Emperor will be very upset “I was almost a God!” Etc Also. Cawl will create StormCast eternals using secret Necron knowledge. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4890939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 They won't go back now. Primaris is a safer, stable and faster way to get marines. Why should they go back? Unless it goes horribly wrong somewhere. Even Fabius and Failbaddon want to have Primaris .... You wait until Cawl restores The Emperor using the Tree of Life that Russ brings back. For one The Emperor will be very upset “I was almost a God!” Etc Also. Cawl will create StormCast eternals using secret Necron knowledge. That's exactly what happen - cause lore masters in GW forget about adulthood and went into their childish years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Fabulous Bill doesn’t require Primaris. He gave Cawl the knowledge because Cawl is an Abominable Intelligence. It’s all so clear when the plot is written by an 8 year old. R_F_D and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Fabulous Bill doesn’t require Primaris. He gave Cawl the knowledge because Cawl is an Abominable Intelligence. Like for Fabulous Bill... veterannoob 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogun Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Has BL (or GW in general) addressed the possibility of Primaris GK anywhere, either directly or indirectly? What's the current status? Not directly, but indirectly there are some big crosses against their possibility. As said, the GK geneseed is different. Cawl has 'only' worked on the original 20 legions geneseed as of Dark Imperium. He never had access to the GK seed, in fact it is possible that Guilliman didn't even know of the existence of the Grey Knights when he first commissioned Cawl. In addition, I doubt that the Grey Knights would let Cawl near their geneseed with a barge pole. They are the ones who were used to clean up the Cursed Founding research site after all, they know what can happen, and frankly they seem to do pretty well as they are. LOYAL-TRAITOR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 They will get access to the tech like everyone else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm just waiting for Cube Marines. Primaris-Primaris Space Marines who get Primarisified. Call may not even know the GK exist, and the GK may not know Cael exists. It's not like they Imperium-wide Wi Fi or anything. There's probably a branch of the Inquisition that watches the AdMech (Ordo Machina? There's a juicy conversion/short story idea), but they're super secretive and guarded as is everyone in the Inq so the GK don't know about them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Did Guilliman/ Cawl have any knowledge of the GKs after the HH? I thought Malcador hid them well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Heresy! Guilliman knows all veterannoob and Biscuittzz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Due to the nature of the GK I am not sure Primaris would work. They are space marine sin name only to be honest. Different geneseed, very different way to train, equip and put them into battle. GK power armour and terminator armour is a different mark entirely from those used by other chapters due to the aegis. Also the GKs are so secretive and exist outside the Adeptus Astartes, they would not recognise any attempt by Guilliman to assign new tech or recruits and I don't see Cawl handing over the details and tech required to create Primaris. Not to mention that all GKs are pyskers complicating it even further. But the most inportant part here is that only Guilliman controls the methods for creating Primaris, he assigns primaris to the other chapters based on the geneseed that created them. He doesn't have access to the geneseed of the GK's and it's doubtful he ever will. (unless they are secretly using the Thousand son's genessed and even then, Guilliman is very clear on not using traitor geneseed). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Besides did the GK get Voldus, Chaplains, Grand Masters in Dreadknights and Ancients with the new codex. I dare to assume that this is it for them in the 8th edition regarding receiving new stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4891723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Heresy! Guilliman knows all Heresy to even suggest that Besides did the GK get Voldus, Chaplains, Grand Masters in Dreadknights and Ancients with the new codex. I dare to assume that this is it for them in the 8th edition regarding receiving new stuff. True with a lot in the pipeline Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4892120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Fabulous Bill doesn’t require Primaris. He gave Cawl the knowledge because Cawl is an Abominable Intelligence. Like for Fabulous Bill... LOL! Now THERE'S a great Western/Futuristic Scifi flick for ya! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4892851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Oh I really hope they don't but I can't see them not. I think proper old skool marines will disappear in the near future. They won't run two scales. But it will be fluff destroyingly awful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4893209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) I'm sure when Games Workshop want to top the cocaine bucket a bit they'll suddenly be very approving of the Primaris and upgrade to 'em. I don't think it's a question of 'if' so much as 'when' given how well Vanilla Primaris have apparently sold. Edited September 22, 2017 by Lord Marshal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4893274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 There will be a market for ALL special characters to be re-released in Primaris size after they receive the upgrade to their gene-seed in the lore. £££ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4893450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 The super power in a vat that just one guy created aspect still bugs the hell out of me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339591-primaris-grey-knights/#findComment-4893476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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