Rune Priest Ridcully Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Is it possible for a loyalist chapter to be created and given/adopt the pre heresy/heresy era colours of one of the traitor legions?I'd just thought up of a scheme to paint the limited edition Primaris captain in and just realised it is essentially the Sons of Horus one with White helmets.I mean fluff wise is it possible that for a chapter of one of the later foundings (say 7th) to have been assigned the colours by the High lords/the Administratum who didn't know or realise?Not going to be traitor geneseed just to b clear, will be of the Khan's Gene line just their colours that are similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Given that the Hawk Lords exist, and they're purple with gold trim, I'll go with yes. Dragonlover Spiritual Liege and hushrong 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) I think there is one Raven Guard (?) successor that looks exactly like HH era Emperor's Children. Even the eagle symbol looks a bit like EC symbol. EDIT: Damn, Dragonlover was first Edited October 1, 2017 by Spiritual Liege Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 As long as you avoid the combination of the same colours combined with the same chapter heraldry, I don't see why not. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 There's a chapter out there that is also pretty much exactly pre-Heresy World Eaters colors, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkyHamHam Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 There's a chapter out there that is also pretty much exactly pre-Heresy World Eaters colors, too. I think it might be Novamarines or Marines Errant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 @Major-Gilbear they already negated that. Silver Skulls have both the same scheme and the same heraldry as Iron Warriors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Make a white chapter with blue shoulders called the Planet Savers. Brother Aether, cielaq, hushrong and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 There are only so many colors and combinations that are looked to get used. Look at how many chapters are basically just red, and unless they quarter the design like the Howling Griffons, they're all just slightly different shades of red Marines. Add in if any of them use company shoulder rim coloring, and you basically have bunches of chapters that are only differentiated by the color of their ornamentation, and their chapter symbol. With 1000+ chapters out there, I wouldn't be surprised if pretty much every traitor Legion's original and eventual coloration are already in use somewhere, probably in multiples in the case of such innovative coloring as "all silver" and "red with black detailing". Heck, even my college shared the colors of the Emperor's Children. It's not relevant to anything, but it does explain a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4900643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Make a white chapter with blue shoulders called the Planet Savers. When the company captains gather to plan the salvation of an Imperial World under Chaos Threat. The greet one another: With our powers combined... Brother Aether 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4903020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Purged by the inquisition for supporting a blue-skinned daemon prince... :p The Ergonomic Enginseer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4905135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Lol. Why not make a red and bronze chapter with scarab helms called "the thousand daughters" for extra HERESY Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4905167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Lol. Why not make a red and bronze chapter with scarab helms called "the thousand daughters" for extra HERESY You mean the Ten-Hundred Daughters. Brother Aether, The_son_of_Dorn and The Ergonomic Enginseer 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4905241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Fifty Score Nephews Beta galactosidase 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4905491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileposter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 ... Which really just makes me wonder if there's a "The Redheaded Stepchilds" Chapter out there anywhere... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4905713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 570 step brothers of the Imperium> 285 Will Ferrell's & 285 John C Reilly's Refusing to leave the Emperors palace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4905729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I mean fluff wise is it possible that for a chapter of one of the later foundings (say 7th) to have been assigned the colours by the High lords/the Administratum who didn't know or realise? According to Insignium Astartes, the first Chapter Master is the one that picks the livery, name, and Chapter badge (not the High Lords/Administratum). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4908005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Lol. Why not make a red and bronze chapter with scarab helms called "the thousand daughters" for extra HERESY You mean the Ten-Hundred Daughters. Or, y'know, "The Brotherhood of a Thousand" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4910967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 There's a chapter out there that is also pretty much exactly pre-Heresy World Eaters colors, too. I think it might be Novamarines or Marines Errant. World Eaters, for reference: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/7/75/WEHeresyEra.jpg/200px-WEHeresyEra.jpg Colour-wise, the Marines Errant qualify, being blue and white, but not in terms of scheme, since their armour is halved: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/b/be/Marines_Errant.jpg/200px-Marines_Errant.jpg Amusingly, the Eagle Warriors have the same scheme reversed: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/6/61/EagleWarriors.jpg/200px-EagleWarriors.jpg The Angels Revenant are kind of World Eaters reversed: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/c/c0/Angels_revenant_marine.jpg/200px-Angels_revenant_marine.jpg Novamarines are blue and bone, rather than blue and white, but the Sons of Guilliman have the same quartered scheme in blue and white: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/2/22/Sons_of_Guilliman_1.jpg In conclusion . . . it's completely fine to re-use the colours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4911408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The alternative is not being able to use (in approximate legion order) purple, silver, blue, white (especially with the aforementioned blue), bare ceramite, red, grey or green, red or more grey, or blue green turquoise brass reddish blueish or any of the XXth's other colors. Plus the XIth had some Veterans in black, plus black being a general color for destroyers that pretty much all traitor legions would have used. Thankfully though, near as I can tell the loyalists lay claim to brown, orange, and yellow, as long as we discount the one orange pad the XVth used pre-Magnus. So, probably have to use all those colors, though I do wonder if there were ever accidental friendly fire accidents as a result, especially in early foundings. "Captain, we encountered a lone ship flying Emperor's Children colors. Lieutenant Vrash took the liberty of ensuring they were utterly destroyed. Traitorous scum." ".... Sergeant Avrams, please send the Hawk Lords another gift basket of apology." "And about that destroyed cadre of World Eaters from last week?" "Oh for the Emperor's Grace, send a basket to the Praetors of Orpheus as well!" "And the grievances from the Nemesis chapter?" "How was I supposed to know that wasn't "seafoam" green! I grew up on a desert planet!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339998-reusing-traitor-colours/#findComment-4911498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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