Urriak Urruk Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 This is really a joke by White Dwarf, but if this isn't Cawl's attempt to use traitor geneseed over Guilliman's orders, I am Matt Ward. P.S. If you don't get it, the Emperor's Children iconography and naming are off the charts. I really like the candles myself. reckoning, Volt, Commander Dawnstar and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 They look fabulous! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It clearly says they are Imperial Fists geneseed, citizen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Who cares about the Emperor's Children in disguise, tell me where they got those candles from. Mechanicus Tech-Support, Azekai, Frater Cornelius and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Who cares about the Emperor's Children in disguise, tell me where they got those candles from. I second this. Also is there any particular thing they used for those sick bones bolted to the shoulder? Viridia 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calyptra Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Who cares about the Emperor's Children in disguise, tell me where they got those candles from. :drool: I second this. Also is there any particular thing they used for those sick bones bolted to the shoulder? I believe the bones are from the Fantasy Ghouls sprue (or, alternatively, from whatever the Age of Sigmar We Can't Copyright "Ghouls" is called). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Great looking conversion. First Primaris that’s made me consider collecting them, annoyingly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I am ranging between awe, given the awesome conversions, suspicion, because those are more likely to be 3rd as opposed to 7th, and utter annoyance, because WHY WOULD YOU WEAR CANDLES IN A FIREFIGHT?! Oo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It clearly says they are Imperial Fists geneseed, citizen. That's what Cawl wants you to think! Sun Reaver 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowWarrior Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I am ranging between awe, given the awesome conversions, suspicion, because those are more likely to be 3rd as opposed to 7th, and utter annoyance, because WHY WOULD YOU WEAR CANDLES IN A FIREFIGHT?! Oo Ambiance. I suspect they were going for a Emperors Children successor, found out thats not really where the fluff is at yet, and picked Rogal Dorn at random. Wargamer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calyptra Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I am ranging between awe, given the awesome conversions, suspicion, because those are more likely to be 3rd as opposed to 7th, and utter annoyance, because WHY WOULD YOU WEAR CANDLES IN A FIREFIGHT?! Oo Maybe they're scented? Semper Fortis, Frater Cornelius, BitsHammer and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I am ranging between awe, given the awesome conversions, suspicion, because those are more likely to be 3rd as opposed to 7th, and utter annoyance, because WHY WOULD YOU WEAR CANDLES IN A FIREFIGHT?! Oo Maybe they're scented? Well, that would explain why there is a great many men and women follow. The smell. Though I wonder how many candles survive the first firefight :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 They look and sound more like Imperial Heralds than emperors children to me ... BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Or maybe it's just GW trolling the fanbase? Someone in the Studio has to know that anything that even slightly suggests Traitor geneseed origins will be seized on as established as fanon, however little sense it makes. Stoic Raptor and Avicenna 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urriak Urruk Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Or maybe it's just GW trolling the fanbase? Someone in the Studio has to know that anything that even slightly suggests Traitor geneseed origins will be seized on as established as fanon, however little sense it makes. I'm pretty confident it's this. The combination of purple, Phoenix, and that heraldry all point to the same legion. At the same time, it has Rogal Dorn listed as Primarch, so nothing confirmed, only obvious hints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4904775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Honestly, I see nothing but a chapter trained by Black Templar. People seem to have forgotten the current BT lore has them fully onboard with worship of the God-Emperor. Not to mention BT, possibly more than any other well-known chapter, have been depicted with candles on their armor. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4905138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) 8th edition will see the loyalists reseed the traitors. 9th will see the return of the Emperor..... Edited October 9, 2017 by The_son_of_Dorn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4905155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 8th edition will see the loyalists reseed the traitors. 9th will see the return of the Emperor..... 10th edition will see Russ and Magnus hug and make up. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4905263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Damnit now I want Dorn to come back next and take one look at these before going to have very harsh words with Cawl. valhalla130 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4905413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I mean in Dark Imperium Cawl's flunkey did tell Guilliman that he had tested traitor and even the lost legion geneseed and found no defects, but Guilliman refused to let them be used. So I fully expect that Cawl has a skunkworks where he did just that and then fudged some stuff to make them seem like he didn't. Pretty cool either from a way to have "loyal" Traitor Legions, or might foreshadow Chaos primaris down the road. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4906422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) What's the big deal about Gene Seed anyway. Everyone feels the lure of temptation and genetics play no role in ones ability to resist... Edited October 12, 2017 by Chaplain Dosjetka =][= Keep sensitive real world issues out of here, thank you. =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4907053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) What's the big deal about Gene Seed anyway. Everyone feels the lure of temptation and genetics play no role in ones ability to resist... Moral failing isn't the only evil condemned by the Imperium of Man; mutants are sinners by dint of birth. One does not always have to be tempted to fall to chaos, sometimes you just get unlucky and are born warped. Also, you are assuming all geneseed is equal and pure, which it isn't. Sometimes it may be flawed, like the Black Dragons, and sometimes it is terribly flawed and corrupt, like the Blood Gorgons. Sometimes the temptation to fall to chaos isn't just moral, it can be physical and possess a genetic component. Even space marines don't want to introduce the specter of troublesome, unstable geneseed into their stock. Even drawing on the rare, untainted pre-Heresy gene stock of the traitor legions seems to be inviting ruin or ill-luck. That doesn't stop some uppity Magos from trying, though. Edited October 12, 2017 by Chaplain Dosjetka Edited quote. Irbis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4907476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 8th edition will see the loyalists reseed the traitors. 9th will see the return of the Emperor..... 10th edition will see Russ and Magnus hug and make up. And ferrus and fulgrim will KISS!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4907487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Honestly, I see nothing but a chapter trained by Black Templar. People seem to have forgotten the current BT lore has them fully onboard with worship of the God-Emperor. Not to mention BT, possibly more than any other well-known chapter, have been depicted with candles on their armor. Yeah, people are reaching. Crusades, faith, spectacle, holy men, these have literally nothing to do with EC. It's either Templars, or Word Bearers if you really want to go traitor route. Ditto for armour, besides the purple accent, it fits pre-Lorgar WB more. What's next, Flesh Tearers being closet World Eaters because both are red and have round logo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4907758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What's the big deal about Gene Seed anyway. Everyone feels the lure of temptation and genetics play no role in ones ability to resist... I don't think you understand 40k. Stop being rational. Those with certain genes went traitor, so that means certain genes are predisposed to being traitorous. Also, the candles are because his armour is contempt and faith is his shield. They probably provide a 6++. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340171-cawl-snuck-in-some-traitor-geneseed-to-troll-guilliman/#findComment-4910959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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