Guest Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I lost track as to what books/stories came after Dark Imperium. Is there any easier way to keep up with book series? Or is it just simply keep detailed tracking of every book coming out? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The don't have a sigil or such, which indicates their Dark Imperium status. As for now, we're asking the authors if it is related to this certain era. Right now, the following belong to the past Dark Imperium time (please add or correct me if I'm wrong): - The Last Hunt - Emperor's Spears - The Alpha Legion novels (can't remember their name) - a coming Ultramarine Primaris novel - Carrion Throne (I'm assuming this one) - Watchers of the Golden Throne (which occurs prior to Dark Imperium, right?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4904613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Carrion Vaults (assume you mean Throne?) is set a bit before Dark Imperium (just listening to the Chris Wraight interview about it on Combat Phase) but I think will carry into the Dark Imperium. Watchers of the Throne is set at the advent of the Dark Imperium if I understand things correctly but I could very well be wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4904640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Rather than classify the books by Dark Imperium, which is at the end of the Indomitus Crusade, I'd mark The Gathering Storm as the turning point. That way we'd have Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion (Gathering Storm Side:Terra) Cadia Stands (Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia) Shroud of Night The Last Hunt Devastation of Baal Ashes of Prospero War of Secrets Emperor's Spears novel RobMac's Ultramarines Dark Imperium and Guy Haley's supposed follow-ups Eye of Night (Audio) Hand of Darkness (Audio) Ghost Warrior: Rise of the Ynnari (+ short story) Sons of the Hydra The Horusian Wars: Resurrection (the new warp rift is addressed) Castellan, the Warden of the Blade sequel Not bad for the time being. I wish WHFB had gotten this much support during the End Times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4904724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Rather than classify the books by Dark Imperium, which is at the end of the Indomitus Crusade, I'd mark The Gathering Storm as the turning point. That way we'd have Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion (Gathering Storm Side:Terra) Cadia Stands (Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia) Shroud of Night The Last Hunt Devastation of Baal Ashes of Prospero War of Secrets Emperor's Spears novel RobMac's Ultramarines Dark Imperium and Guy Haley's supposed follow-ups Eye of Night (Audio) Hand of Darkness (Audio) Ghost Warrior: Rise of the Ynnari (+ short story) Sons of the Hydra The Horusian Wars: Resurrection (the new warp rift is addressed) Castellan, the Warden of the Blade sequel Not bad for the time being. I wish WHFB had gotten this much support during the End Times. Isn't Carrion Throne also set in this part of the timeline also? Pretty sure on Twitter Wraight and French hinted at their books being contemperaneous? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4905042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Isn't Carrion Throne also set in this part of the timeline also? Pretty sure on Twitter Wraight and French hinted at their books being contemperaneous? I think they'll converge but in Wraight's interview with @veterannoob he said it was a little before. Presumably Crowl will be involved but not yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4905048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 The Carrion Throne doesn't feature the Warp Rift or the fate of Cadia yet. I mean, sure, it took Terra a good while to learn about it, but Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion makes it appear like Navradaran couldn't yet have been that invested in collecting Sisters. I'd wager there are at least a few months between the two books. You can see the Gathering Storm from there, it borders closely on the events timeline-wise, but as an individual novel, it doesn't group up. Sequels? Most assuredly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4905463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks all, looks like I have more books to read. Are the audio-books worth listening to while painting or do they require a lot of attention? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4906249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Eye of Night and Hand of Darkness? They're good productions with plenty of effects and dialogue and I'd say well worth the listen. One I finished while cooking (which was a bit more distracting than painting, I'd wager, with dishes clattering and pans sizzling), the other while cleaning. They're around 70 minutes each, so not too taxing all things considered. I have to admit though that I liked Hand of Darkness a tad less than Eye of Night (maybe because it stars Yvraine and the Visarch primarily, and I didn't have a great grip on the Ynnari lore yet, whereas Greyfax and Inquisition nonsense was very familiar and flashy). If you're so inclined, I'd also recommend the Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion audiobook. I picked it up on Audible when BL launched there, and it has been pretty neat. It follows three PoVs, one per chapter, and each has a distinct narrator (Gareth Armstrong, John Banks and Emma Gregory), and all are narrated in first person, so that works perfectly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4906420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.crusader Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Sons of the Hydra How do you know Sons of the Hydra is a post-GS novel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-4906866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Any updates to DarkChaplain's list below...as of July 2018? Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion (Gathering Storm Side:Terra) Cadia Stands (Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia) Shroud of Night The Last Hunt Devastation of Baal Ashes of Prospero War of Secrets Emperor's Spears novel RobMac's Ultramarines Dark Imperium and Guy Haley's supposed follow-ups Eye of Night (Audio) Hand of Darkness (Audio) Ghost Warrior: Rise of the Ynnari (+ short story) Sons of the Hydra The Horusian Wars: Resurrection (the new warp rift is addressed) Castellan, the Warden of the Blade sequel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 The Lords of Silence by chris wraight, looks to be set in the dark imperium era Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 It’s kind of sad the plot of most of those marine books has been ‘Primaris vs OldMarines’. They’ve gotta stop treating Primaris like anything but regular old space marines or it’s going to trope itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Do they, though? Because right now, all those books are either Space Marine Conquests or the Dark Imperium book where the new Primaris stuff is introduced for the first time. The Conquests books are all set early during the Indomitus Crusade to begin with, where Primaris are literally new to the Galaxy and Chapters adopt their first dudes as Guilliman makes his way across the Imperium. Anything but books about Chapters dealing with a sudden flux of new, better dudes would be pretty silly and out of place during that timeframe. The further we get post-Indomitus, the less we will see of it, but right now, we haven't advanced the plotline significantly in a while, with the novels that do follow on from Dark Imperium scheduled for release over the coming 6-12 months. I'd say we should wait and see how this develops, especially as the books so far were exactly supposed to show how various Chapters adapt to suddenly getting Primaris. Dealing with the drastic changes to the galaxy post-Gathering Storm for a few books during the first year, and highlighting some of the more eccentric Chapters and their reactions, can hardly be considered a trope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 You just advocated for the exact same thing I said. Like 100% agreed that they should move forward and not let this Primaris vs oldmarines become a trope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I think the inter-generational friction between SM 1.0 and SM 2.0 should be a great source of tension. Yeah...they're not that different, but the older generation views the newer generation as outsiders and possibly usurpers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I think the inter-generational friction between SM 1.0 and SM 2.0 should be a great source of tension. Yeah...they're not that different, but the older generation views the newer generation as outsiders and possibly usurpers. And we've had that story several times. Playing up the otherness of Primaris marines isn't a solid foundation to build on. There should be no more daylight between the two a hundred years later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.crusader Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Any updates to DarkChaplain's list below...as of July 2018? Cadia Stands, The Battle for Markgraaf Hive, Titan's Bane Blood Guilt, Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion Eye of Night, Our Martyred Lady, Celestine: The Living Saint (by Andy Clark) Hand of Darkness, Shadows of Heaven, Ghost Warrior, Fireheart, Wild Rider Ashes of Prospero The Last Hunt War of Secrets Shroud of Night The Devastation of Baal, The Assassination of Gabriel Seth, Hunger Castellan Horusian Wars by John French (too many to name) Of Honour and Iron Crusade A Brother's Confession, Blood of Iax, Blood and Bone Spear of the Emperor Endurance, The Lords of Silence Imperator: Wrath of the Omnissiah, By Your Command In the grim Darkness, Dark Imperium, Dark Imperium Plague War (should be released in October) Mephiston: Revenant Crusade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5117536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDarth151 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think the inter-generational friction between SM 1.0 and SM 2.0 should be a great source of tension. Yeah...they're not that different, but the older generation views the newer generation as outsiders and possibly usurpers. And we've had that story several times. Playing up the otherness of Primaris marines isn't a solid foundation to build on. There should be no more daylight between the two a hundred years later. I sincerely doubt that is enough time for every old marine be completely okay with the fact that they have been made obsolete. For that matter, I am not okay with every old marine being made obsolete. I find it immensely unsatisfying, as far as narratives go. Pah. I thought that GW's handling of moving the narrative forwards was poor at best, so I'm going to shut up, before I devolve into a little angry ball of rants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Oooh, Dark Imperium Plague War? What do we know about this book? I've been anticipating the sequel for some time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Santar Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Oooh, Dark Imperium Plague War? What do we know about this book? I've been anticipating the sequel for some time. The following is from the Amazon UK listing: 'Intent on rebuilding Ultramar, the returned primarch Roboute Guilliman wages war on the treacherous Death Guard - but the intervention of a greater power threatens all he works for. In the void and upon the worlds of Greater Ultramar, the battle for the Imperium continues. Intent on rebuilding his home realm and using it as base to reconstruct the ravaged stellar empire of mankind, the returned primarch Roboute Guilliman proceeds with his war to drive Mortarion and his Death Guard Traitor Legion from the domain of the Ultramarines. But when Guilliman brings his brother to battle upon the diseased plains of Parmenio, the intervention of a greater power in their fraternal struggle threatens to upend the Imperial Regent's understanding of the galaxy, and his place within it. Primarchs and ideologies clash in this second, thrilling part of the Dark Imperium trilogy.' Cover art is here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.crusader Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Oooh, Dark Imperium Plague War? What do we know about this book? I've been anticipating the sequel for some time. The book will be announced this Saturday as part of October titles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think this book will involve "the intervention of a greater power" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Wow this has me hyped. Dark Imperium had some flaws as a book but was absolutely fascinating at the same time. I can't wait to see how the story progresses. Also, this book might give us some hints towards the future of the Marine line. Who will be this Greater Power? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCagh Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Cato Sicarius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340183-post-dark-imperium-books/#findComment-5118286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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