Brother Captain Ed Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yeah, that's cheap enough that I am now running various numbers to make it happen. Unless the rules are garbage, that's a justifiable price point, imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 So that’s quite a bit of coin for me and I have to add duty. I really have to see the rules first and equally as important- the points cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 I agree that the rules will make or break the potential purchase for most people. I honestly expected it to be priced the same as a Mastodon so I guess that's a positive lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 My wife has already said she will give me forgeworld vouchers for christmas and birthday and ask her family to do the same, should make this a pretty much guarenteed purchase.have to admit, I feel a bit like a collector with primaris stuff, never had that mindset with anything else GW related before, but feel like "Gotta Catch 'Em All!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I agree that the rules will make or break the potential purchase for most people. I honestly expected it to be priced the same as a Mastodon so I guess that's a positive lol Let's be real: that's true of any Forge World purchase (and 90% of GW purchases). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I just don't think the armor is sensible. Lots of spots that would catch shots, rather than deflect them. Sloping armor was a 19th Century invention, hopefully the principle behind it hasn't been lost in that time. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 At least this tank can move around the battlefield. A Landraider in real life has no ground clearance. A Stormraven isn't aerodynamic etc. We can't apply full logic to 40k, a certain amount of "It just looks cool" has to be applied. Even the awesome Fellblade chassis tanks leave their tracks completely exposed at the front which makes no sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 If it actually “looked cool”, that might be one thing. Unfortunately, it looks ridiculous. The turret is set too far back. The hammerhead prow is counterintuitive on an armored vehicle. I would have to overhaul the entire chassis before I’d comfortable fielding one, and at that point what would be the point? It’s an aesthetic garbage pile. Hope the rules are at least OP, because if not, that fugly thing isn’t selling. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 If it actually “looked cool”, that might be one thing. Unfortunately, it looks ridiculous. The turret is set too far back. The hammerhead prow is counterintuitive on an armored vehicle. I would have to overhaul the entire chassis before I’d comfortable fielding one, and at that point what would be the point? It’s an aesthetic garbage pile. Hope the rules are at least OP, because if not, that fugly thing isn’t selling. SJ To be fair, I've heard more positive than negative feedback on the looks. If you dislike, that's perfectly fine. But I do thing it will sell quite alright. I also hope it will, which means we might see more Primaris FW toys in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I like it :) it looks sci fi and different from Astra militarum and the likes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Sorry, jeffersonian. I think it's the best looking Astartes Tank aside from a few classics like the Sicaran. I love the sci fi aesthetic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I can’t do it, I was back and forth for a while. From certain angles it looks outstanding, from others utterly attrocious. It just isn’ta good feel for me. I will just have to stay with a “Relic Hunters” vibe with my guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4922805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalim Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 https://spikeybits.com/2017/11/warhammer-world-reveals-open-day-new-fw-releases.html Looks like that big-ass tank is a mere 11 days away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4931730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Now that I've heard the dimensions, I can't imagine ever playing it on a normal tabletop. It's bigger than most static terrain or even a Knight Titan. If it were any larger, games could be played on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4931742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 At least this tank can move around the battlefield. A Landraider in real life has no ground clearance. A Stormraven isn't aerodynamic etc. We can't apply full logic to 40k, a certain amount of "It just looks cool" has to be applied. Even the awesome Fellblade chassis tanks leave their tracks completely exposed at the front which makes no sense. 40k aircraft don't need to be aerodynamic because they're all basically Scrams. They fly as fast as F-22's right on top of the ocean level. In atmosphere they'd be zipping around like Doomrider after pilfering Walter White's depot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Now that I've heard the dimensions, I can't imagine ever playing it on a normal tabletop. It's bigger than most static terrain or even a Knight Titan. If it were any larger, games could be played on it. It's not that big lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 A foot long is an eighth of a full-size table. That would be a 300mm oval base. Pretty sure that's bigger than a Stormwolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 but its not really any larger than other superheavies... which is what it is. Exception is knights, but thats because they have verticalitytm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 It's smaller than the Fellblade variants. I expect it to be big. It's not there to zoom around the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Looking forward to getting my grubby mits on one, although i will certainly be converting it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Nope . It is the dumbest looking thing coming out of fw of late. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I expect it to be big. It's not there to zoom around the table. I'm sure it can't - because any table that leaves that much open space with no terrain might as well be just a tank-only battle anyhow. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4932681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 As it hovers, it ignores terrain anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4933088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 It ignores terrain while moving. It cannot physically occupy the same table space as a building or a ruin. We're not talking rules here, I'm talking physical volume. It's scale creep taken to the absurd. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4933128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 It's no different to any other super heavy and has absolutely nothing to do with scale creep. To use your word... don't be absurd. It will be usable in as many situations as any other super heavy with the exception of nights who have a smaller foot print but the extra height. I've also not seen a game where something like doesn't just result in moving the terrain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340649-is-anyone-else-looking-forward-to-the-astraeus-grav-tank/page/2/#findComment-4933151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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