Gorgoff Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I thought you don't like the cheese .With a good 'whine' there'll always be cheese. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4969568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I don't really have an issue with onslaught. I've used it before and the lack of allies keeps it from getting really crazy. 4 leviathans is rought, but people can already ally in 5 knights or 10 castellax. Giving up a troops slot for HS is clutch, but until they town down vets you probably want a few squads of them anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4969653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Eh DAs don’t have a full list yet and our legion rules are the absolute worst and/or conditional. I’ll take any crutch we can get short of spamming leviathans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4969696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Multi use Grenade launchers you sayyyyy... *rubs mandibles menacingly* :devil: Here come my dark angel Ironwing vet squads with sniper on stasis grenades. Say hello to rending blast weapons that always wound on a 3+ and reduce initiative by one. Muwahahaha Usually I would pause when it comes something this close to cheese (I’m not saying it is), but Dark Angels got hit hard with their legion rules which makes this actually relatevley fair.Still, I’d rather have this in a doubles game next to me than be facing it opposite the table :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4969700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 To me more than one Levi is a bit of overkill but hey have fun with it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4969760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
klisof Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 GW seems to be shopping these out quickly, I ordered mine late on Xmas day along with some shoulder pads and it was delivered today :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4970658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 GW seems to be shopping these out quickly, I ordered mine late on Xmas day along with some shoulder pads and it was delivered today :)Seems so. I heared several of those stories, but I am still waiting... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4970664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Anyone any idea if the Summary Sheets have already ran out please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4970861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Question. Is it still one unit per transport?l, or can I cram that second squad of vets in my Spartan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4970883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kijamon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The summary sheets are still showing as in stock. No, you cannot put more than one unit in a non-super heavy tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4970888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On page 69 of that awesome looking, greatly arranged new rulebook. What do we see in the background? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4972679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
klisof Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Great spot, not sure what it is but it screams dark mechanicum to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4972778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Is it the pic with the Thanatar? It's recycled from Book VI if it's the one I'm looking at. The thing in the background is a photo-manipulation of a modern bucket wheel excavator. Look it up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4972823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Is it the pic with the Thanatar? It's recycled from Book VI if it's the one I'm looking at. The thing in the background is a photo-manipulation of a modern bucket wheel excavator. Look it up!Probably... but if not..."My Bucket Wheel Excavator shoots it's two twin Volkite Culverine at your Marines." comes pretty smooth, ifyaknowwhatimean. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4972863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I would be super down for a giant Mechanicum-styled wheel-excavator terrain piece like that. Like the Sector Mechanicus Servohaulers? But way bigger! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4972884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Gilead Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Might be a bit off the topic here, but does anyone happen to know if there will be an enhanced edition of the tablet version of the rulebook? I prefer those to the ebook versions, but there doesn't seem to be one available at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Anyone noticed that the new Sniper rule is the old Sniper rule without the FAQ? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Might be a bit off the topic here, but does anyone happen to know if there will be an enhanced edition of the tablet version of the rulebook? I prefer those to the ebook versions, but there doesn't seem to be one available at the moment. Forgeworld dont tend to unfortunately :( Fingers crossed though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Looks like you no longer auto-loose if you don't have any units on the table turn 1. They used the 7th edition language instead. Kinda a bummer because null deploy is now a thing again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kijamon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Looks like you no longer auto-loose if you don't have any units on the table turn 1. They used the 7th edition language instead. Kinda a bummer because null deploy is now a thing again. The only things that come in on turn 1 from reserves are drop pods and Horus (Emperor's Children RoW too? Can't remember). Out of those - drop pods would be insane to lose automatically and would kill a themed list and the other two wouldn't always want to do their naughty tricks. I don't really see what the issue is. What am I missing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Looks like you no longer auto-loose if you don't have any units on the table turn 1. They used the 7th edition language instead. Kinda a bummer because null deploy is now a thing again. Didn't everyone allow it already anyway? You couldn't play an Orbital Assault list if you weren't allowed to null deploy, and that rite is hardly uncommon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Anyone noticed that the new Sniper rule is the old Sniper rule without the FAQ? As in, even Plasma will only wound on a 4+? That old ? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Anyone noticed that the new Sniper rule is the old Sniper rule without the FAQ? As in, even Plasma will only wound on a 4+? That old ? I don't know what the faq says but that's not what the Sniper says. At first glance Sniper + plasma seems like a poor choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Anyone noticed that the new Sniper rule is the old Sniper rule without the FAQ? As in, even Plasma will only wound on a 4+? That old ? I don't know what the faq says but that's not what the Sniper says. At first glance Sniper + plasma seems like a poor choice. The FAQ basically made it so that if you were to run something like a Plasma Gun in a Sniper Vet unit (Guaranteed high S AP2, a good choice), then it overrides the RAW crap that says it only ever wounds on a 4+ (even though ti would normally wound on a 2+) and is only S4 against vehicles. So as that hasn't been included (oversight) we're back to those weird interactions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Anyone noticed that the new Sniper rule is the old Sniper rule without the FAQ? As in, even Plasma will only wound on a 4+? That old ? I don't know what the faq says but that's not what the Sniper says. At first glance Sniper + plasma seems like a poor choice. The FAQ basically made it so that if you were to run something like a Plasma Gun in a Sniper Vet unit (Guaranteed high S AP2, a good choice), then it overrides the RAW crap that says it only ever wounds on a 4+ (even though ti would normally wound on a 2+) and is only S4 against vehicles. So as that hasn't been included (oversight) we're back to those weird interactions. I don't read it that way. I guess it'll need another faq Or you were making a joke and I misunderstood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/11/#findComment-4973894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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