Problems with Ultima Founding for your IA´s?

[DaBoiKyknos]

Hello fraters (and sisters, don´t want to exclude anyone of course  ),

 

I just wanted to ask around how you treat with the new storyline which came with "Gathering Storm".

The Ultima Founding, which brought us the Primaris Marines, how do you incorporate them into your existing lore of your IA´s (I mainly aim at the ones who already wrote their IA´s before this happened, but others can of course share their experiences, too)? 

 

Did you update your IA´s? I guess they aren´t fully incorporated in theofficial standard chapter organisation, are they?

So did you change your personal lore in some points? Did it bring with it problems with your concept?

Or did you, for some reason, decide not to use them because you just feel they don´t fit in? 

 

I am eager to hear your experiences! :) 

 

Greetings, Velype

 

(pictured: Primaris Raptor from the "The Mighty Brush" blog, not mine obviously) 

 

[Pulse]

My chapter was intially 26th founding but i chose to push my chapter to the Ultima founding (currently reworking the IA, which i will post soon).

 

• Firstly because of the potential the Primaris have to blow away the stagnation, zealotry and backwardness that the Imperium has become, that includes the majority of chapters from all the previous foundings who quite honestly have done nothing but add to the stagnation.
• Secondly because i love the idea of a young chapter, taking it's first steps, and with the cockiness of youth looking at what is out there and knowing they can do better than what has come before.

Edited November 25, 2017 by Pulse

[Wargamer]

Primaris are few in number within the Supernovas, and are themselves faced with two divisions. First, they are not well received by the Chapter proper, who resent having outsiders forced upon them. Second, the Primaris themselves are divided between those who wish to adhere to Guilliman's vision and those who have "gone native".

 

The latter have found the Chapter much more welcoming of them, and are increasingly abandoning Primaris doctrine in favour of adopting new roles on the battlefield that better fit the needs of the Chapter - such as the creation of the "Fuzylars", who act as scouts, assassins and saboteurs.

[Cpt_Reaper]

Well my 4th Company were mauled pretty badly against the Tau, (20% losses) then mauled again in the Galaxy's Ruin Incident (in which they appeared in our massive RogueDeathHeresy campaign finale) so with the opening of the Great Rift I just killed them off completely to make the 4th company the Primaris Company.

 

Really I've used the occasion to move the plot forward for my Chapter. The Chapter Master, 2nd and 4th Captains are dead; the master of the 3rd, Kronos Nightshade, is now older and everyone is begging him to take command of the Chapter but things aren't right just yet...so I brought back my legendary chapter master Draconis Umbra from the dead...uh...Dread...nought...he's a Dreadnought. he is leading until a new Chapter Master can be appointed (aka Kronos Nightshade gets over himself and lets someone else take the 3rd Company.)

 

I'm really just waiting to read the new Dark Angels codex and the lore provided to use that as a basis in moving forwards. It will have up to date things about how the Unforgiven treat the primaris, and if it explains the sudden appearance of the units we used to lack (stalker/hunter, thunderfires, etc) or if it does the whole "you always had them" line.

[Beta galactosidase]

I'm treating them as if I had known about them all along and they had already been in the third edition rule book and codexes when I started playing in 2003.

 

So I have been thinking about a few characters who are primaris, and rewriting some events so that they have intercessor squads instead of assault or tactical squads, but I am not covering the new arrival because in-universe that happened a long time ago and I recognize that since the chapter was fighting wars they are more interested in having new assets and continuing to fight than like, author-insertion.

[Conn Eremon]

I admit that I'm headcanoning a bit, trying to cherry-pick what I like and change what I don't, but it's pretty easy from my point of view to advance each of my DIYs' timeline to incorporate the new events and the Primaris.

 

Only two of my Chapters had actual changes from what was already established, and that was because I wanted to do so. I've always been uncomfortable with how I wrote the cavalry saving the day for the Emerald Tigers, and the Indomitus Crusade and Primaris gave a better option. The Crimson Specters were always intended to be a fresh-faced Chapter, as newborn as could be. The Ultima Founding lets me do that better than the 26th Founding did.

 

All other DIYs have their histories proceed as already established, with the additional two centuries' worth of lore adding onto it rather than modifying it.