LucidNinja Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Hey everyone, I am working on a list that is pretty much a whole bunch of vets in a stormraven with a chaplain dreadnought And am wondering if the heavy flamer is worth it? He'll be getting dropped off right in range hopeful but don't know if it's worth the points difference over the storm bolter. Ideally once he makes it into combat everything close will be crushed and if unable to get into the next enemy unit 8" seems like it will be too far away. Plan is to have him armed with a assault cannon also. Just wondering if anyone has had luck with the flamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I'd say yes. If you're using a Storm Raven then you get the venefit of an amazing weapon. If you need to save points though you'd still enjoy a Storm Bolter on the power fist. Race Bannon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceGuyAdi Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Plus if you miss your charge you get auto hits from the flamer in overwatch on top of the assault cannon when you get charged the following turn. Which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Assuming someone would want to charge a Chaplain dread, that is. I'd say that's not a huge concern of theirs. If you really wanna go all out, you could take the super duper flamer instead of the cannon :D But yes, deploying by Raven I would say the flamer is a good investment. Otherwise probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I charge hard targets all the time, since they go first ;) Firepower 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidNinja Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 The list I'm working on had the flamer but could be switched to a storm bolter and add another hellblaster... Very on the fence with this one. I was going to get the FW claw for him which would have the storm bolter mounted to the body, is there a good flamer for that setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I like the heavy flamer for the auto hits and the -1 save modifier with decent strength. Pretty much any Dreadnought I run with a fist gets the heavy flamer. Its short range is a downside, but the storm bolter has lousy strength and no save modifier so I think it balances out. Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The Storm Bolter isn't really a significant contribution to the firepower of the model, any moreso than it would be on a vehicle. The Heavy Flamer, however, has a lot of potential for brutality. It's also a wonderful "keep-away" Move that Dreadnought closer to enemy infantry and watch them fall back or die. Or charge you and die. Or get a few survivors into melee... and die. A Storm Bolter just doesn't generate that kind of psychological effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabre Slanneshi Prince Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I'd rather have a Heavy Flamer but 15 points over a Storm Bolter is pretty hefty fee for something you won't get to fire too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Now, Ironclads or Death Company dreads with the double HF? That’s some fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I always run mine with atleast 1 HF, but mine are Red and Black, and tend to run towards the enemy anyway, so that might have something to do with it. Dreadnoughts don't like fighting Lots of mediocre infantry, it wastes their limited power fist attacks, but a solid heavy flamer shot (or 2, DC dread says high) can really swing it towards the dreads favor. Stoic Raptor 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidNinja Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Alright I am convinced. I'm used to flamers being pretty useless but haven't used a heavy flamer... Ever, wow that's weird I've been playing since 3rd ed and never had a heavy flamer in my list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 They're more effective now that templates are a thing of the past. It's a really good deterrent that lets you fight on your own terms. It's a great "come at me, bro" weapon. Race Bannon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Alright I am convinced. I'm used to flamers being pretty useless but haven't used a heavy flamer... Ever, wow that's weird I've been playing since 3rd ed and never had a heavy flamer in my list Margulix 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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