Holier Than Thou Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 I’m pretty sure that we’ll have no good news.Agreed.Disagreed.So what good news are you expecting us to get?I expect some small buffs to underutilized weapons and units. Small increments to not overdo it, but buffs nonetheless. I'm hoping for some range increase on heavy weapons and some AP and damage buffs, either or. Purifiers get some range increase hopefully, and maybe an additional attack to make them that more dangerous. Some decreases on CP on stratagems, since they're more difficult to get. I would love for you to be right but I honestly think we'll be largely ignored again, save for a points increase of 15-20 for Grand Master Dreadknights. If they actually do a decent job of balancing us against the other factions, I'll be first on B&C admitting I was wrong but history suggests I won't be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5034024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Point changes are for CA. They will have some, I think, but only where it is needed most. And I've never seen someone complaining GMNDK are too cheap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5034027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Point changes are for CA. They will have some, I think, but only where it is needed most. And I've never seen someone complaining GMNDK are too cheap. Nobody needs to complain. All GW needs is to see that the only GK unit other armies are taking is the GMNDK and they'll assume it must be too good so they'll slap a few more points onto it. What you need to remember is that the majority of their balancing decisions have been incompetent or imbecilic so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5034029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The balancing decisions have been based on tournament performance only. We got nerfed by association. As as no one continues to use any gk at tournaments I'm siding with us being ignored. And only effected by any generic changes. There's simply no GK playtesting for them to base any changes on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5034206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just thinking, do they actually change unit points or stat profiles in FAQs? Or is it mainly "yes" or "no" responses to issues/rules players are confused about? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 No points. That's for chapter approved. This is just updated FAQs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 If the open letter is done, perhaps we could email it to 40kfaq@gwplc.com.I don't think it would take too much for them to modify rites of banishment via FAQ, perhaps even stratagem costs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 No points. That's for chapter approved. This is just updated FAQs. exactly. We can only hope on some stat adjustments. If the open letter is done, perhaps we could email it to 40kfaq@gwplc.com. I don't think it would take too much for them to modify rites of banishment via FAQ, perhaps even stratagem costs. If I am right we sent the e-mail months ago. Even because it is too late since the FAQ will be released next week. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 In earlier FAQs they fixed prices actually. So they can change the most broken ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 GW said that the point adjustment in the future will be made only in the CA, isn't it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I don't remember if they said "only". We'll see next week. If rumors about casting value of smite is true, I doubt there will be any changes for RoB. Increasing purifying flame range is also unlikely because of overall mortal wound nerf. I still hope for D2 psycannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I will be happy if:- Our libbys get access to librarius discipline. - Psycannon becomes D2 (and maybe -2) - Purifiers get 2 Atk (and maybe 2 w) - Interceptors get fly kw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 I won't be happy if that's all we got (although I don't expect us to even get THAT much attention). There is a lot more that needs addressed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I won't be happy if that's all we got (although I don't expect us to even get THAT much attention). There is a lot more that needs addressed. I agree with you but I'm pessimistic. We wouldn't have any big changes. Because of this i'll be happy if we get the above mentioned modifications. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5036790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCastigator Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Is it too wishlist for a chaplain’s litanies of hate to give +1 smite damage? I’d go for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5038904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I don’t know but our chaplain need a strong improvement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5038983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I don’t know but chaplains need a strong improvement. Fixed that for you :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCastigator Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I think further buffing our psychic prowess would help out a lot. Plus that special issue chaplain model is boss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I don’t know but chaplains need a strong improvement.You’re right. Lol Fixed that for you :) I think further buffing our psychic prowess would help out a lot. Plus that special issue chaplain model is boss.Actually I love the old model that I used to make our chaplain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I would really tone down expectations. We're a minor faction, they're gonna be focused more on the Tier 1 armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorBlack Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I would really tone down expectations. We're a minor faction, they're gonna be focused more on the Tier 1 armies. I agree with RD. The most I think we'll receive is some sort of exemption to the beta smite rules that will likely be made official. However, any nerf to soup will hit us hard (as a minor faction that benefits from allies). I hope I'm wrong though :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 We're as minor a faction as the space wolves. Or dark angles. And we should expect no less attention than they get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yep, but I still think that we are no getting the attention we deserve. Our problem is that we share some units with Other armies and we risk to have more berf due to this. But there are no rumors yet? March is finishing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorBlack Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yep, but I still think that we are no getting the attention we deserve. Our problem is that we share some units with Other armies and we risk to have more berf due to this. But there are no rumors yet? March is finishing. It seems like GW were waiting for Adepticon to finish. The championship event finished today (Matt Root's nids won), so the FAQ should roll out on Monday... unless they want to spend a couple of days looking at the data and potentially making some slight adjustments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichar Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 It would be interesting to see what armies were taken by the competitors at AdeptiCon and how they fared. Did anyone bring a pure GK list? Would be rather telling IMHO as they at least have a Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/8/#findComment-5039771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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