Holier Than Thou Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Did anyone bring a pure GK list? I very much doubt it. The people attending Adepticon are probably quite competitive, there's no reason they would take our trash Codex. Most likely the only representation we would have had would be some allied GMNDKs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5039783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Someone told me that the winner was GI + BA. I have no info about a GK players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5039821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Nope nids won...With a total of 7 Hive Tyrants, 4 Mawlocs, 8 Mucolid Spores and 9 bases of Rippers Matt Root was able to take the crown. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/03/40k-the-unbeatable-list-adepticon-2018.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5039826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So I have to kill my info pusher. :D Ty. Flyrant nerf incoming? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5039862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Mytre Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Time to get rid of the Supreme Command Detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5039923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Time to get rid of the Supreme Command Detachment.This. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Mytre Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Time to get rid of the Supreme Command Detachment.This. I was thinking about it, you could keep it, but change how many CP it grants, ie, 0 or -1. Might stop people spamming those units while still allowing choice. Still, CP army access makes it hard to balance. They really need to redo the CP generation method. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I maintain if everything in the codex got +1 attack we would be too bad off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I feel, that "one HQ of the same type per detachment" rule will become universal by the next Chapter Approved. Probably best and easiest way to get rid of good HQ spam etc. Some armies of course get hurt, but not GK. Just no more battalions with double GMNDK. This will nerf Supreme Command too, because it is almost always about maximizing same choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Frankly after taking that away from Tau they should make it fair and do it with everybody else. Also make their battlesuits bs3+ since they took away their best features. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Mytre Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I feel, that "one HQ of the same type per detachment" rule will become universal by the next Chapter Approved. Probably best and easiest way to get rid of good HQ spam etc. Some armies of course get hurt, but not GK. Just no more battalions with double GMNDK. This will nerf Supreme Command too, because it is almost always about maximizing same choice. If they just removed the supreme command detachment, they wouldn't need any rules like that. Every other detachment has a tax of at least 3 other units, so to spam a HQ, you are going to be paying a lot in troops/elites/fast attack etc (depending on the army ofc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 We already ban Supreme Command locally. It's only used for cheese anyway. I am considering 'two max of same datasheet in HQ' per detachment. That plus our 2 detachment limit really kills HQ spam. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I agree, the supreme command detachment should be deleted. This could fix much problems. Still no news? Today is the day? Tomorrow? After a couple of days of wh-community spoilers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 It'll probably come out in April. Seriously though, if it comes out today or tomorrow I'd say that means it won't take account of anything from Adepticon, if it's any later than that then maybe they'll have amended it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Mate of mine watches a load of battle reports online. Told me he watched one with the new Tau dex facing the GK. Tau (and this is someone who had just picked up the Codex) wiped the floor with the GK. But one of the comments from the Video was something along the lines of; "You shouldn't test a new Codex versus the weakest Codex" :'( Is there anyone who doesn't think GK is the worst Codex released for 8th? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 That was the tabletop tactics one I would guess. The dice were not with the gk player that game. He also fielded 4 squads of interceptors and 3(?) squads of terminators. The damage 2 riptide cannon ate them pretty quick :( a further nail in the terminators coffin :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is there anyone who doesn't think GK is the worst Codex released for 8th? Clearly Games Workshop, so far they seem to think it's absolutely fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is there anyone who doesn't think GK is the worst Codex released for 8th? Clearly Games Workshop, so far they seem to think it's absolutely fine. I love you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 He is a type of player that considers an army complete garbage if you don't take models you like and kill everything on 2+ rerollable. When I pointed that he, at least, has Riptide spam back he answered "but I don't like riptides". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 That was the tabletop tactics one I would guess. The dice were not with the gk player that game. He also fielded 4 squads of interceptors and 3(?) squads of terminators. The damage 2 riptide cannon ate them pretty quick :( a further nail in the terminators coffin :( Yeah, the Tau player had 2 Riptides and his Commanders had quad fusion loadouts. Interestingly, the GK player was "The Spider" Lawrence, the guy who won one of the GW Tournaments last year with the famous Guilliman + 6 Assualt Cannon Razorback list. His second favourite army on his channel is GKs though he admits the codex is not up to snuff when it comes to Tournament-level. I keep hoping GW contacts Lawrence (or he provides input to them) when it come to improvements for the GK codex, if they ever plan to revisits our specific rules/units/profiles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5040971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10min ago on Facebook. “Delaying the March faq just a little bit so we can integrate our findings from AdeptiCon with your feedback. Stay tuned for further announcements”... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5041061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Mytre Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10min ago on Facebook. “Delaying the March faq just a little bit so we can integrate our findings from AdeptiCon with your feedback. Stay tuned for further announcements”... "Hmm, GK did nothing of note in the tournament. We should probably nerf them to make sure they aren't OP, better safe than sorry". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5041076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hah! Guess my expectations won't be met. Let's release the FAQs based on tournament results after a major tournament. Ah shoot. Might have to wait so we can actually take that make tournament into account. Who would have thought... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5041143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 10min ago on Facebook. “Delaying the March faq just a little bit so we can integrate our findings from AdeptiCon with your feedback. Stay tuned for further announcements”... It'll probably come out in April. :rolleyes: Haha, so I might be right that the March FAQ is released in April. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5041157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 They’re calling it the “Spring” update now lol. Either way I’d rather have them release it properly instead of rushing it. I just really hope we see some GK love Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344309-will-grey-knights-be-fixed-by-the-march-faq/page/9/#findComment-5041400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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