MagicHat Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Already hunting ebay for sales on the Armigers. I know that the Imperial Knights should eventually get a release for their own Armigers but I'm not sure if I should wait. It took almost six months for some of the Death Guard stuff to release. I just want to be ready for the LVO 2019 really. What every army I end up building and taking to the LVO Friendly. I just want to have a good time. Edit: Was reading about the Armigers from the Necron/Mech box and it says they have thermal spears as weapons. Looks like it is not just meltas. Thermal Spears are their main melta weapon. Compare to the Errants Thermal Cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Maybe an explanation for the delay to fires of Cyraxis? According to Rob, previously of Warhammer TV fame, he recently said the Fires of Cyraxis book is a myth and even as the owner of a 30K mechanicum army he does not believe it will arrive this year. The rules team is struggling to keep up with releases and to recover from the sad loss of Alan Bligh and FW in general is a bit lost. I hope he is wrong on this but he does have a large amount of inside knowledge because of the lead time of releases. GW have lost one of their rules team too recently and are down to 5 remaining with responsibility for 40K, AoS, Shadespire, Necromunda, stand alone products like Forgebane, etc, etc. That is a tough line up to keep up with at GW's current release rate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedratsailor Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On the back is a second reactor. Shield generators are the nodes on to of normal knights. It's going to have a dangerous explodes profile for sure. I really think it's just an upgrade kit and those legs are the same as a normal knight. Compared to Armiger this thing looks very close to other knights. Considering how agile regular Questoris class knights are I suspect it can bear the weight but be slower. Questoris Knights have their Left Leg forward. the new Dominus has its Right leg forward. the questoris legs were NOT posable unless you took a knife and saw to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Im okay with explodes. I play Death Guard. I think the kit might feel small but GW is smart. Traveling with Mort and Magnus is a pain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Does anyone have any official quotes regarding fires of cyraxis. I don’t really understand how the official stance can go from almost here to ‘buggered if we know when.’ One would think it would be an easier book to write since it’s basically rehashing existing models right? Anyone got a link to the last official word on the subject other than #shrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Does anyone have any official quotes regarding fires of cyraxis. I don’t really understand how the official stance can go from almost here to ‘buggered if we know when.’ One would think it would be an easier book to write since it’s basically rehashing existing models right? Anyone got a link to the last official word on the subject other than #shrug Well yes but Forge World's release schedule got pushed back by a year or more as a result of the loss of three senior design team members in a matter of months. Also who knows what'll be in Fires of Cyraxis, at this point maybe something to tie into the new Armiger and Dominus kits... we'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 A year, wow that’s quite heavy. I did not realise they were such a small team and and lost such a big portion of it at once. Ok my questions are answered, thank you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5039451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I wonder... If the new knight might impact peoples use of the Crusader? If it's a tougher up-gunned slower gun-platform then it might take over the role a lot perhaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5041478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I wonder... If the new knight might impact peoples use of the Crusader? If it's a tougher up-gunned slower gun-platform then it might take over the role a lot perhaps. All depends on the PPD ratio I suppose - points per DAKKA. Plus you have survivability to take into account, it could end up that one big knight with more guns is better than two smaller or vice versa. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5041643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 I wonder... If the new knight might impact peoples use of the Crusader? If it's a tougher up-gunned slower gun-platform then it might take over the role a lot perhaps. Unless the new Knight has something similar to the Avenger Gatling Cannon then I doubt it. Knights need more anti-infantry Dakka, while the Castellan seems to be mostly focused on higher damage anti-vehicle weapons. It may have other weapons that make it better than the Crusader but from what we've been shown it'll serve a different role. I just wish we could take Crusaders with two Avengers like Chaos can... Also as Charlo said it will depend on the points and it's durability. Even if it has more firepower it may not be enough to justify too high of a cost, too much sunk into a single model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5041936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I wonder... If the new knight might impact peoples use of the Crusader? If it's a tougher up-gunned slower gun-platform then it might take over the role a lot perhaps. Unless the new Knight has something similar to the Avenger Gatling Cannon then I doubt it. Knights need more anti-infantry Dakka, while the Castellan seems to be mostly focused on higher damage anti-vehicle weapons. It may have other weapons that make it better than the Crusader but from what we've been shown it'll serve a different role. I just wish we could take Crusaders with two Avengers like Chaos can... Also as Charlo said it will depend on the points and it's durability. Even if it has more firepower it may not be enough to justify too high of a cost, too much sunk into a single model. Why can’t imperial knights take 2. Is it an oversight or something intentional do you reckon. I wonder if it’s worth pinging the warhammer community team in case they haven’t realised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5041954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 It's intentional, but who knows why. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5041990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 K, thanks. They do seem to make some odd rules design choices don’t they. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Maybe it's a shame in this specific case but I don't really mind that there's some disparity between loyalist and traitor units. Chaos shouldn't jst be space marines - but in red, so the fact that they get some other stuff is fine by me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I presume it’s because there’s only one of each gun in the box. The Grey Knight Nemesis Dreadknight is similar: no duplicates in the box or in its rules, so no dual Heavy Psycannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I always assumed it was because the STC for the crusader was fairly specific but chaos tainted houses couldn’t care about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I always assumed it was because the STC for the crusader was fairly specific but chaos tainted houses couldn’t care about that. Yeah, I think it's more something along these lines rather than that the box only contains one of each weapons. Besides how many boxes for like an infantry squad contains enough special weapons to satisfy every possible build? I just don't think that's necessarily a big concern for GW when it comes to situations like these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Knight Valiant is happening, armed with some kind of spear weapon. I'm so excited, just need these other inferior releases out of the way ;-) lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Knight Valiant is happening, armed with some kind of spear weapon. I'm so excited, just need these other inferior releases out of the way ;-) lol Oh, so you've gotten some new info? That's cool, it's still based on the Castellan model as far as you know, right? Anything else new? I'm sitting here magnetising my Armigers right now so the hype level for knights is already dangerously high haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Honestly, I don't know if it's an entirely new kit again or if it's built off the Castellan chassis. That would make sense though I guess, in the same way we've seen the Armiger has a build and the sprue B, so assumedly there's a sprue A and possibly c/d etc etc. Exciting times Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm still inclined to think that this will be a dual kit. It would fit to the release policy of GW. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 According to the release schedule it's two boxes. There was four on the sheet I saw as I've said before Castellan Armiger Helliger Valiant. Doesn't mean it won't share sprues, but the valiant was definitely seperate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Alright, we'll see. Any dates on that sheet? I know you said no in the past. I'm just checking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Still nothing unfortunately. I'd still guess April or May at the latest, but that's just a guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Anyone know any wealthy benefactors handing out free money? Asking for a friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/3/#findComment-5042726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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