Medjugorje Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/40kFAQFuture-Dec15-Infographic4fqn.jpg Not later then 31 of March there are a few changes for us in terms of gameplay or/and for our beloved chapter or/and units. To this point we have no informations, no rumors or anything like that ( what really surprise me ). But there are a few things that need a change - and "NU GW" will change it - i am positive of a massive boost especially for close combat space marine armies. What are your thought/expectations about the errata/FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 We had all this hype before Chapter Approved, what did we get? LRC cost increase. I have no expectations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5038990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 hmm, i think GW tried to fix all OP units. But now they had much more time and gametesting ( because we did and pass on GW ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 This GW is still way better than what we used to have. People keep forgetting how bad things used to be. I'm optimistic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 This GW is still way better than what we used to have. People keep forgetting how bad things used to be. I'm optimistic. This. What we have now is light years ahead of what we got previously Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Its only an errata, Im not expecting anything mindblowing but its nice that they created this system. It will probably be released by Monday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Its only an errata, Im not expecting anything mindblowing but its nice that they created this system. It will probably be released by Monday. There was just an errata which fixed Razorflock Spam There was just an errata which fixed the flyer spam there was just an errata which fixed the conscript spam I am not such optimistic like a lot of people here because GW makes a whole bunch of mistakes again - but they try to fix it. Such things needs its time. Maybe longer to make worse units good then fixing OP-units because people scream louder if there is a model which is too strong in gameplay then complain about that something is too weak. why do you think it will be released on monday??? I HOPE SO because i cant wait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 why do you think it will be released on monday??? I HOPE SO because i cant wait. Because I believe Adepticon ends on Sunday and I think GW is waiting for it to end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 why do you think it will be released on monday??? I HOPE SO because i cant wait. Because I believe Adepticon ends on Sunday and I think GW is waiting for it to end. Yeah, it seems very realistic that they waited that event to end up with the old rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 A friend told me that he had asked GW about the faq/errata and they told him to wait a few days. GW decided to pull it a few days behind because they need the input of the adepticon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5039983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 After the previous let-downs I've suffered with regard to the treatment of Codex: Space Marines and Black Templars specifically, I am not looking forward to this at all. However, I can't wait to finally experience at first-hand the "new GW" everyone's talking about. It would be nice if the update made addressed some of the odd point costs of some things in the Codex and made Space Marines more competitive overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5040056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Expecting almost certainly will be a limit on 'commander' type HQs across the board, similar to the T'au rule, so limit on 1 Captain, Hive Tyrant, Nemesis DK grand master etc. per detachment. As for anything specifically Templar related I doubt it, it's just an errata, maybe some points cost changes, further reductions on Terminators maybe would be nice. Other than that I think it will be very unlikely to see much change. The main focus needs to be on tackling all the spam (which is a good thing!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5040919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 i dont think that Templar getting a special place in this errata - but space marines melee units. And thats indirectly what makes that special for Templars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 i dont think that Templar getting a special place in this errata - but space marines melee units. And thats indirectly what makes that special for Templars. What are you expecting them to errata about melee units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Because official Space Marines have a mixed codex - half melee half shooting. Not like Tau, Daemons or Imperial Guard. But in terms of gameplay all people call Space Marines a shooty army because they are much stronger in shooting then in terms of melee. And we talk about Nu GW,... so I think that there will be a few point changes and maybe rule changes. - better Terminators - better Assault Squads - maybe better chainsword rules- - better reivers - maybe a few stratagems/changed stratagmes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Your hope is admirable. Personally I dont think flat out buffing those things is a good thing mainly because the way the codex works having ok melee units is fine when they are supposed to work with shooting elements that are buffed by their tactics or stratagems, you buff all those things and BA shoot up into absolute OP but if you make those buffs situational (Stratagems, Characters, etc) then you can balance things with more granularity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_Aleister Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm hoping for: Tactical/Crusader squads as cheap as Scouts Cheaper Land Raider Crusader (lower model cost to offset rise in weapons from last time) Cheaper Terminators (more) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 What sense would it make for power armor squads to be as cheap as scouts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Because official Space Marines have a mixed codex - half melee half shooting. Not like Tau, Daemons or Imperial Guard. But in terms of gameplay all people call Space Marines a shooty army because they are much stronger in shooting then in terms of melee. And we talk about Nu GW,... so I think that there will be a few point changes and maybe rule changes. - better Terminators - better Assault Squads - maybe better chainsword rules- - better reivers - maybe a few stratagems/changed stratagmes. Honestly, I'd be surprised if we got any of that. I know that GW has done a good job so far of being a better game company and I hope that continues, but if we see any kind of buffs from the errata I'll be pleased. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidweasel Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 And looks like we have to wait longer to find out as they've delayed the FAQ/errata even further. I can't really comment too much as i haven't actually played my Templar on the table top yet (I have a "thing" and can't play with unpainted models!) But seeing friends various Space Marine armies they certainly need something. I'm all for balance, and this edition does seem the most balanced yet so we shall see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Expecting almost certainly will be a limit on 'commander' type HQs across the board, similar to the T'au rule, so limit on 1 Captain, Hive Tyrant, Nemesis DK grand master etc. per detachment. I honestly doubt that'll happen. At least not this time around and not for units like the generic Captain etc. I also feel like many of you expect way too much from this FAQ/Errata. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 The optimists here don't want a new FAQ or Errata. They want a new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_Aleister Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 What sense would it make for power armor squads to be as cheap as scouts? Scouts are generally considered to be better, competitively, than Tacticals based on their Infiltrate. Better units shouldn't be cheaper than worse ones, and Tacticals for their points cost don't make a good heavy weapons platform it seems? Seems obvious to me. Doesnt mean they'll do it :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5041926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 What sense would it make for power armor squads to be as cheap as scouts? yes... because in this edition a 3+ armor save is not that strong. Scout price have to stay on 11 because they have a very very good special rule - Crusader Neophytes shouldnt cost the same. In generel Space mainres are too expensive but i think this would never happen. I think we could be happy by cost reductions for our Neophytes and maybe a few special rules for close combat . But I wouldnt expect too much. Because official Space Marines have a mixed codex - half melee half shooting. Not like Tau, Daemons or Imperial Guard. But in terms of gameplay all people call Space Marines a shooty army because they are much stronger in shooting then in terms of melee. And we talk about Nu GW,... so I think that there will be a few point changes and maybe rule changes. - better Terminators - better Assault Squads - maybe better chainsword rules- - better reivers - maybe a few stratagems/changed stratagmes. Honestly, I'd be surprised if we got any of that. I know that GW has done a good job so far of being a better game company and I hope that continues, but if we see any kind of buffs from the errata I'll be pleased. for most cases i dont expect too much but little cost reductions for Terminators and maybe no negative modifier for power fists/heavy weapons seems very realistic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5042087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Expecting almost certainly will be a limit on 'commander' type HQs across the board, similar to the T'au rule, so limit on 1 Captain, Hive Tyrant, Nemesis DK grand master etc. per detachment. I honestly doubt that'll happen. At least not this time around and not for units like the generic Captain etc. I also feel like many of you expect way too much from this FAQ/Errata. in germany we say "Vorfreude ist die schönste Freude" means nothing is good like to be happy for some things we expect^^ And over last years hope was a very needed thing in this forum by 6th to 7th Edition treatment to us. The optimists here don't want a new FAQ or Errata. They want a new codex. yes but improvement comes into small steps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/#findComment-5042092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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