BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I don’t expect anything for SM when the FAQ drops. To me Templars are still good but there is nothing wrong running two detachments that compliment each other and is a fluffy combination. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5053582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 To be clear I wasn’t counting ‘Tactics’ into the calculations either and unless the tactic they get is absurd. Grey Hunters won’t be any better than our Crusader Squads. It’s just the reality is that both squads are really similar and both excellent for different reasons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5053594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arigatous Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 maybe we have to wait for Dorn himself That's actually the best idea ever. I don't want BT codex anymore since recently. I would prefer GW to initiate the Last Wall protocol and give us a VII Legion Codex which would include Imperial Fists, Black Templars and Crimson Fists units, characters and stratagems and reborn Rogal Dorn as a Lord of War. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5056099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Iti's out https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/warhammer_40000_The_Big_FAQ_1_2018_en.pdf No major changes for us, except maybe not being able to DS on the first turn, but a change that definitely affects us as Templars is the nerf to Smite. No more spaming this power endlessly. Also Flyrant spam(and any other spam for that matter) is dead Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5056781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othniel's Blade Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Well, more CPs for brigades and battalions, which is nice (imho). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5056873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 ::listens to the distant screaming on the Announcement boards about he DS beta rules:: So my drop pods and deep strikers arrive turn 2. So be it. The Emperors justice comes to all, in time. Just not turn 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5056921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allegedlynerdy Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'm not happy about unit limits or the Battlebrothers beta rules. But not from a BT perspective. From a BT perspective this is great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawklynn Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Looks like I have some bathroom reading material for tonight. Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Sounds decent. Our best bet as always is the Emperor's flaming nerf bat walloping our enemies. Damnit... we cant take more than 3 LRC? That's just wrong... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Pretty much kills my army. Thanks GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Pretty much kills my army. Thanks GW. What's your army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Pretty much kills my army. Thanks GW.What's your army? If I would guess. 6 chaplains and 6 ironclads in 6 drop pods... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Well this is infuriating. Like I used Deep Strikes to Faux Screen now? Just what? How the frick. Man like I have to use like Scouts to do what I did before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I'm still looking forward to the re-release of the Lucius Pod so I can drop my Leviathan :-D But yes, it's not going to be competitive :-/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Batallion +5cp is fine. Maybe guardsmen “cp farm detachement” will be popular. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 No 1 turn DS reivers for distraction. And how we can footslogging, when we can’t distract enemy shooters? That was wht DS do. Now it is gone. And second thing. Our CT was quite usable when we DS And make 1turn charge. Now it is quite useless. I’m happy with ofdicial rules, but unhappy with new beta rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Don't use the beta rules? Give that feedback. Looking at their methodology they were more worried about shooting focussed DS units, but that ignores assault focussed DS units. Perhaps an exception for units where every member carries a dedicated close combat weapon. (That may need working for assault squads with plasma guns or flamers) In other news, stormravens can no longer carry leviathans or deredeos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5057804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 As Adelard said, the Deep Strike change would indeed suck for melee units for obvious reasons, but it's only a beta rule and thus not relevant for current matches unless you specifically insist on using the beta stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allegedlynerdy Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 As Adelard said, the Deep Strike change would indeed suck for melee units for obvious reasons, but it's only a beta rule and thus not relevant for current matches unless you specifically insist on using the beta stuff. Around me TO's always run the beta rules. Already have confirmed it for the next three tournaments through end of July Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Then make sure you try it out and we all give decent feedback! GKs and TOs all managed to win exceptions from the last beta, why can't we? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah people actually using the rules and giving proper feedback is very important now. We have LOTS of negative theory crafting about how it'll suck for many armies and benefit others (for good reason imo) but no actual real life evidence to support those claims. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Let's call it the Planetfall Crusade! Everytime we play a game with the rule, we write both an email to GW and post the letter in a thread on here. Each person references the thread on their email as a link so that every one email in effect references the whole lot. Gain some traction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 As per usual, I would like to remind folks that feedback to GW is best done politely. The raving tone of some does not help our case. Anyway, this hurts me harshly because my limited pool of models relies heavily on the tactic of Deep Striking big units like Ironclads and Terminators on Turn 1 as screens and distractions, not because they're an uber cheesy doomy tactic that this errata is aimed at. I simply don't have the models necessary to adapt to a whole new tactical outlook. So yes, it 'kills' my army, which already struggled significantly on the table against most opponents. So yet again, I find myself in a tenuous position of deciding just what the hell to do. I don't have the finances and I paint too slowly to adapt to big changes like this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Of course we must be polite. It will be the politest crusade in the Chapter's history! Another alternative is to stop playing matched play? Honda's been extolling the virtues of PL for a while now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Of course we must be polite. It will be the politest crusade in the Chapter's history! Another alternative is to stop playing matched play? Honda's been extolling the virtues of PL for a while now. This, you've never been an uber competitive player anyway Firepower which is exactly what the other two game styles are for. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345512-the-big-fat-erratareleased/page/4/#findComment-5058896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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