Panzer Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 It doesn't say new rules. Just that we get fancy datacards for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 oh =/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 It doesn't say new rules. Just that we get fancy datacards for them. "The Eight – they’re back, and more amazing than ever!" Special Officer Doofy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Yeah I can read. Doesn't say they get new rules though and we know that GW likes to print the "new" datasheets for units in PA that only exist outside of their Codex yet. You can also expect to see all the "new" Slaanesh Daemon datasheets in their PA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Yeah I can read. Doesn't say they get new rules though and we know that GW likes to print the "new" datasheets for units in PA that only exist outside of their Codex yet. You can also expect to see all the "new" Slaanesh Daemon datasheets in their PA. I think it strongly implies the rules are not exactly the same as before but its only a couple of weeks so we can wait and see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I also have to concur it's implied. Previews this week so we should see and get some clarity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 It reads like GWs usual empty hype buzzwords. Don't hold your breath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Shadow sun rules preview on warcom Her drone gives a4++ to her and a 3" fnp bubble Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Interesting to see that her “command of the Fifth Sphere” somehow also put her alongside Farsight for work - really interested to hear how that happens - did Farsight come back into the fold or did he sneak folks into the sphere expansion or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Her new stuff is a bit underwhelming imo. The weapons are super close in damage output (about 0.5 more dead Marines per weapon on the Dispersed FB and only a little less against T7 vehicles). The main difference is actually the range I'd say. I'll go with the HE FB if I want to keep her with my CIR Ghostkeels and with the D FB if I want to keep her with my Stealth Suits or FC Ghostkeels. The new Guardian Drone is neat but a 6+++ is too unreliable for me to care about, especially with just a 3" aura and the 4++ won't protect it much against anti-infantry shooting anyway. At least it's better than the 6++ of the regular Guardian Drone I guess. They've also posted a new Stratagem on their Facebook page which is unfortunately only relevant for Hammerheads (Ion or Submunition rounds), FC Ghostkeels or ... of course ... Ion Riptides. Edited February 3, 2020 by Panzer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Or 18 autohits from a Y'vahra...gonna need to pop this up to 3cp immediately, ban it, not allow FW, or disallow that from using it lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 Yeah FW units are a thing I guess. Don't care much about their overpriced resin. Though the Sunshark will benefit nicely from it too so that's a thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshlands Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Tiger shark would also love this, in the context of the current meta id take that over the old HBC profile. For 1cp its worth it on any old ionhead though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Or 18 autohits from a Y'vahra...gonna need to pop this up to 3cp immediately, ban it, not allow FW, or disallow that from using it lol. It can wipe a unit of IH intercessors with one shot. Is it a problem that a 400 point model can kill some troops, even tough ones? It seems really crazy at first glance but then on reflection it is crazy on a couple of models which are a little too expensive - which it brings up to being competitive. They are still glass cannons. I would let it play out and see how it goes, no need to panic just yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Yeah FW units are a thing I guess. Don't care much about their overpriced resin. Though the Sunshark will benefit nicely from it too so that's a thing. Honestly I think the most sensible use of this is on Longstrike. He does suffer from an unreliable number of shots but otherwise his shooting is excellent. Then when Longstrike gets taken out use it on the remaining Hammerheads. It seems to make Tank Tau better more than anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 That would also work on the pulse driver cannon for the stormsurge right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 That would also work on the pulse driver cannon for the stormsurge right? Nop. It doesn't work on titanic units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 That would also work on the pulse driver cannon for the stormsurge right? Does not work on titanic units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Ahh, pooey. I legit keep forgetting about the stormsurge and it's rules, I can't seem to want one :( Edited February 3, 2020 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshlands Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The Stormsurge is more interesting now its cheaper. I think with the yvara itll also suffer from not being able to split all those S6 Damage 3 shots, which is an odd profile thatll overkill a lot of things and then be hampered by 5+ to wound against others. For example the flamers useful against fliers, a lot of which it could already one shot anyway. In practise the ion gun going up to 9 shots might be the more consistent buff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5471997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 I'd love getting a Stormsurge but it's really hard to justify over a bunch of Broadsides or Riptides or such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5472076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I wonder if we'll have the commander limit removed, I doubt it but would be nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5472216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Very unlikely. PA doesn't usually touch what's in the Codexes. They only add to it plus the odd Datasheet update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5472219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) More stuff! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/04/the-greater-good-faction-focus-tau-empiregw-homepage-post-1/ Custom Septs are a go! The Stabilisation Systems one will be great for all the big suits and tanks. Tempted to take it for my Ghostkeels so I can also take ATS for their CIR. Speaking of Ghostkeels, it seems like we can give non-character models "prototype weapons" (either that or we are getting a Ghostkeel character option!) and the Advanced Scrambler one is really sweet. Basically giving that one Ghostkeel the Primaris Infiltrator aura. Also much love for the FSE. Coordinated Engagement is sick. Together with their other Stratagem you can drop a Crisis unit and have them blast something away while hitting on 2+, re-rolling 1s and ignore cover without having to rely on Markerlights at all! Edited February 4, 2020 by Panzer Messor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5472240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think it's more akin to suit specific systems. Which is amazing. 12" deny deepstrike support system for keels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345642-greater-good-today/page/11/#findComment-5472254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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