Macloren Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 They’ll possibly be wildcats if it’s a heraldic chrest rather than like Mr Tiddles! :) The ‘Three Lions’ of England come from the Plantagenet kings and are actually Leopards. Cats is cats though right?! Glad to see you picking this up again though Jeff! I was hoping you would. I’ve started working in mine now, though I didn’t start with a full reposition, happily I get to see how yours goes before I start mine! Lucky me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5052647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Big cats, little cats... Whatever. :D And thanks! The progress so far on the legs is very encouraging. I should be able to do some pretty radical reposes for sure. My biggest concern at this moment is the detail on the cap of the ball-joint for the hips. I may end up doing a press-mold and just remaking them. Seems like it would be simpler. But, that won't stop me from trying. Either way I'll document it all for people to use as a guide or cautionary tale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5054777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Pic dump incoming: After having made all the cuts I wanted to, I decided to do some test fitting and work on a pose. I locked a couple joints in place with plastic glue (Tamiya Extra Thin FTW) and used a bit of blue tack to mock it up. Let's take a look at the legs first. This is the full range of motion you can get without 'breaking' the design. One leg is fully extended and the other is fully compressed. It's... Not as dramatic as one might hope. I tried the legs with the extended one back and the compressed one forward and it looked really goofy. I think I'm going with this instead. This is still off since the hips are just fudged right now, but you can start to see the idea. And then I had to add the body so I could see if the head would work. I knew I'd want the body leaning down almost like a shoulder barge. Here are a few shots. I'm going to play around with the exact position of the back leg and also curl the toes to really show the sense of movement, but for now the extended leg is working for me and that's the harder part, in my mind. I had to assemble enough of the torso to check the head movement, and then I tweaked the position to look up a bit since I know the body would be pitched forward to show the momentum. It was a super easy adjustment and looks great, IMO. I think this is enough to prove the concept to myself. It's a bit of work, but luckily I didn't have to mess with the ankles at all! I did cut the peg just to get a bit more control but so far it's not even needed. Can't wait to start gluing this up. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5054965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Strong start. I'm sure you'll agonize over it when the time comes but I'll just add to be careful not to overdo the extension of the rear leg. It's running, but it's still a giant freakin' robot! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5054976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 The legs are basically locked in place. If anything I may bring the rear leg forward a touch more. It'll look better once the foot is in place, I think, to get the sense of motion as that legs comes up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5054977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Running poses! Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5054993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Running poses! Awesome! Just one will be running, I think. The other one I saved two of the same legs for, and I think it'll be a bit more static. I was thinking about a sort of power pose, like they're taunting someone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5054999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 when you like your posing, I'd pin the model. I've started to pin the leg/foot that is the main supporting structure, it really helps with the structural integrity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5055054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 I think I’ll have to do a little pinning for sure. These Knights are so top-heavy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5055234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Excellent work so far, mate! The shoulder charge look is definitely there! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5055360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Oh yeah! I was hoping this would eventuate. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5055904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Haha. Glad you could join in, Bats! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5056020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanist Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Nice work there so far and based on the queen I'll be watching eagerly. 40k addict did some reposing of the new kits. not quite as detailed but he got some interesting poses out of the stock legs and green stuff at the hips. http://www.40kaddict.uk/2018/04/imperial-knight-warglaives-in.html Plus he does some beautifully metal work when it comes to the way he layers and stipples on over a textured start point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5056313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Ah, nice! Thanks for passing that on. That's more than I've seen pretty much anybody else do so far. They've gotta be popping up now. It's been long enough. I'll keep an eye out for his painting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5057024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanist Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Hmm looks like he's procrastinating back to the bio titan. Might be worth digging into his history past posts for his full sized knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5057731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I'm looking forward to how you weave a little story into these pieces, always one of the things i love most with your work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5057826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Late to the party as always, but this time I'm going to sit this through and support this all the way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5059180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Thanks Auggie! Update: I've been off work all week so haven't been working on these. I did pick up a pack of various-sized beads with the idea of recreating the hip ball joint. We'll see if one is a close match to the correct curvature. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5060662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I expect to see a bee's nest somewhere on one of these as an homage to the Queen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5060712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 I expect to see a bee's nest somewhere on one of these as an homage to the Queen. Oh man! I may have to do this... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5063489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Had a chance to start the pose of the second Armiger. This is the one that will end up something like a 'power pose' at the end of the sprint. I've got the legs bluetacked together, and so far almost nothing has been converted. I did cut the tabs on the ankles, and adjusted the head to be looking slightly down. I think the sense of weight is good. I wanted the torso angled back a bit, the hips splayed and the feet planted. The arms will add some needed drama as it's a bit boring right now. The glue was a bit squishy still so I didn't want to mess with it too much, but I think it will also benefit from a bit of twist in the torso. Once it had started solidifying a bit I added that and snapped another pic. And then I wanted to try shifting the head to the side as well. I just can't help myself... Final pose isn't set in stone, of course, but I do like the way the legs look planned firmly and set out just a touch. Thoughts? Care to weight in about the waist/head position? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5063541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I like it, it gives the Armiger a braced stance. I'd say if you have the head looking to the left (which I like, it gives it a sense of motion) then put the weapon on the left as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5063610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yeah, I have to play around with the arms still of course. I also have the charging one of course and I figured I'd swap them around. Thanks for the input! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5063658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoiKyknos Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If they are the little helpers of the Queen, are they ...drones? ^^ ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5063659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yeah, I have to play around with the arms still of course. I also have the charging one of course and I figured I'd swap them around. Thanks for the input! I don't have the model and I'm too lazy to look at pics... do they have an elbow? Could you put the CC arms in an action pose or do they just hang there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345721-friends-of-queen-bee-armiger-leg-pose-coming-together/page/2/#findComment-5063698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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