Prot Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Thanks for the update. To say 'mortal wound spam is the truth' do you mean for your army to use? Or you were on the receiving end (Nids are capable of a lot of Mortal wound spam). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5120609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Fortunately for me I was doing the spamming. Although I was surprised to take 1-3 mortal wounds every time those biggies reached my units. I believe I killed old one eye, a hive tyrant, and 6 carnfixes and a mawlock(?). Couldn’t touch the tyrants with the big guns but happy with what I did kill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5120663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 Yeah! Another victory against the Tyranids. My (nearly all) infantry army is doing better than I expected (at least in casual games). Mission: Relic Deployment: long board edge I grabbed the objective Turn 1 and made it to turn 6 due to command points, and getting Glamour on the Rubrick every turn. It was a hard fought game exchanging blows until the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Glad to hear those Rubrics are still paying dividends for you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 Thanks Prot. Yes, so far no need to buy and goats or paint cultists. I'm sure I'd be a ringer in a tournament without them, but rubrics and terminators seem to get me by. Mass marines and big vehicles are my current biggest challenges. I did manage to kill 48 CSM in a 2K point game not listed here, but he had 96! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Thanks Prot. Yes, so far no need to buy and goats or paint cultists. I'm sure I'd be a ringer in a tournament without them, but rubrics and terminators seem to get me by. Mass marines and big vehicles are my current biggest challenges. I did manage to kill 48 CSM in a 2K point game not listed here, but he had 96! Do you play against Astra very much? I found that so incredibly disheartening for the infantry. Same with Eldar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Thanks Prot. Yes, so far no need to buy and goats or paint cultists. I'm sure I'd be a ringer in a tournament without them, but rubrics and terminators seem to get me by. Mass marines and big vehicles are my current biggest challenges. I did manage to kill 48 CSM in a 2K point game not listed here, but he had 96! My last few games have been almost all infantry too. I've had a blast with them. They struggled a lot against Orks, though, due to huge numbers of bodies on his end. I think Scarab Occult Terminators are truly the best terminators in the game as of right now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNegan Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Tyrik, what tactics do you use with your SOT? erm, asking for a friend. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 I have not yet played against Eldar or Guard in this edition; it's all been good/evil marines, tyranids, or Adeptus Mechanics. Our Guard player is playing Alpha Legion only so far this edition. I"ve been playing infantry only largely to deny quick/easy kills and minimize my opponent's heavy weapons potential. The Dark Matter Crystal, warptime, and the Scarab Occult deep striking has been enough to overcome the 'Sons lower movement in my limited experience. Edit: I do tend to run 5 warp flamers in a unit, so if I can get them close to a target, that target is usually gone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5138688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Latest Game 2,000 points Deployment: Frontline Assault Mission: Contact Lost Result: Win (7-0) Summary: I had two objectives at the end of turn 1 and had two more mere inches away. I score two VPs. I also burn all but 1 command point. Turn 2 saw me leave one objective and get two more. I don't score any VPs. Turn 3 had me on all but 1 objective (deep in my deployment). I score 5 VPs, netting me 7. Game is conceded. I lost my scarab occult squads in one turn of shooting, but it enabled everyone else to keep the pressure. My rubrick was wiping out one or two squads a turn via shooting. Lots of crazy effective dice rolling on both sides, but my getting first turn probably was the bit that had me rolling all game. And a preview: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5143262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 5 Warp flamers? Yeesh. That’s a lot of points in a fairly elite army. Good for you though. I know when they are firing on all cylinders they can be crazy good in that configuration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5143282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yesterday I actually ran 7 flamers in one unit yesterday just for fun. I forgot their rhino, so ended up taking the points in Scarab Occult. That unit went down to 3 in one turn of shooting, then were promptly forgotten as a Daemon Prince rampaged on the units that could fire upon them. The board was ~50% terrain so the rhino loss wasn't too bad. I wouldn't normally run flamers without some kind of transport or web way shenanigan. I'm sure in a competitive environment I'd get regularly tabled, but I haven't played that style in years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5143315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Another victory against the Alpha Legion Mission: Targets of Opportunity Deployment: Table corners Opponent: Alpha Legion Points: 2,000 My opponent had roughly: 2 Helbrutes with las cannons (x2), rocket launcher 1 Contemptor with multi-melta and fist 2 Defilers 1 Forgefiend 2 10 man CSM squad 1 5 man CSM squad 1 30 man cultist unit 1 sorcercer 1 warp smith 1 lord with jump pack, lightning claws (x2) My list was my core list, but instead of the 2 Scarab Occult squads, I went with 2 Helverin and 1 War Scythe Armigers. I also rejiggered my two smaller rubric squads to add a rhino, put two flamers in each squad, and lose a rubric. I think there were a few other minor changes. After deployment, I had two objectives with two more very close. I got first turn. Turn 1: I get first blood when the ru-brick wipes out a 10 man CSM squad Turn 2: I get Defend Objective 3, Big Game Hunter (a defiler), and Psychological Warfare objectives Turn 3: I get Defend Objective 4, Power of the Cabal, and Secure Objective 5 objectives Turn 4: I get No Prisoners, Supremacy, (and Linebreaker after a concede) objectives My opponent got Slay the Warlord and two other tactical objectives on Turn 4. Final score: 12 to 4 Thoughts This is the second objective-based game where the cards were with me and I was able to secure objectives with focused firepower. In fact, I could tell Tzeentch was looking over my shoulder when in the final turn I also had the "slay an opponent in the fight phase" objective, and Ahriman could not put the final wound on the Contemptor after taking it down to 1 wound in the psychic phase. Tzeentch sure is fickle that way. I had the "control all objectives" card the first turn. If I had it Turn 4 instead, I would have scored it too. It was pretty crazy. The armigers are a big improvement over the Scarab Occult. Granted, I wasn't in hand-to-hand often, but being able to put out those auto cannons on the defilers and helbrutes made a big difference. I could get them down to 4-5 wounds, then finish them off later in the shooting phase with rubric squads after dealing a few mortal wound via smite. These are big upgrade over the butcher cannons on decimator option in my opinion. It costs more, but the sheer number of shots two Helverins can do makes them a big booster for me. I agree with Prot; these are a good option for Thousand Sons that don't mind a different chaos detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5148611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 That's a good result, AL are pesky with that -1 to hit but getting in close negates it which you've no problem doing with the likes of a Rubrick. Did the Rhinos help in getting them into position? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5148970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 The rhinos were a mixed bag. One definitely let me get line breaker. The other was very stubborn and survived turn 1 with one wound. That enabled me to disembark and heavily damage the cultist blob and secure objective 5 when I drew it. It wasn’t until the game was over I realized I never used the dark matter crystal. You really do want to be in the 12” - 24” band most of the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345888-the-blood-ravens-thousand-sons/page/4/#findComment-5149001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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