Focslain Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 You may only a pledge a single configuration. You cannot claim points for alternative loadouts, magnetisation, etc. So, other things being equal, you may as well pledge the most point-rich configuration. Got it and will do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaiel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 So, as a Deathwatch player Im very happy that our Codex comes out sometime in May. The problem is that I wont know what is legal and how much the points have been changed when I pledge my force 1st of May. Is it possible to revise my list when the codex comes out? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 No. Vows never change once made provided they are correct at the time of pledging. So if you make a vow, even if the new Codex comes out before you complete it, you have to see it through regardless. However any vows made AFTER the new Codex comes out MUST be made using the new Codex - you can never go back to Index or other lists. I hope this helps. If not, let me know! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaiel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No. Vows never change once made provided they are correct at the time of pledging. So if you make a vow, even if the new Codex comes out before you complete it, you have to see it through regardless. However any vows made AFTER the new Codex comes out MUST be made using the new Codex - you can never go back to Index or other lists. I hope this helps. If not, let me know! Thx for the quick reply! Then my first vow will be stuff that most likely wont change by the codex and finish those first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm running my death guard list from the index, as I can't stretch to purchasing the codex at the moment. Is this not an option? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I will be mote than happy to work out the points for you (PM me- although I will not be able to do it before Sunday night my time because I’m away from my books). In the mean time. If someone else wants to step in in the mean time that’ll be fine - just do this via PMs. I just need everyone to use the same common reference so no point discrepancies will occur for the same units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I will be mote than happy to work out the points for you (PM me- although I will not be able to do it before Sunday night my time because I’m away from my books). In the mean time. If someone else wants to step in in the mean time that’ll be fine - just do this via PMs. I just need everyone to use the same common reference so no point discrepancies will occur for the same units. Cool, thanks. I'll dig out my list and pm you if necessary, in the meantime I'll try and get in touch with my local DG player and see if he'd be willing to do the conversion for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Drop me a line, I'll sort it for you. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Drop me a line, I'll sort it for you. Dragonlover It's all good, getting a cheat sheet of the codex points pages, which should do the job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBugman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I"m all set, but I just thought of one more dumb question: If I"m pledging for IG/AM, I can't pledge anything outside of the codex, like Assassins or Inquisitors? I'm going to assume no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 And you’d be wrong! :woot: People who vow for IFOR must choose one IFOR Forum as their Forum of preference - say in your case the Astra Militarum. Then for every unit of Astra Militarum that you pledge you may (if you want) pledge one unit from another IFOR Forum. However all the points will go to the Forum of preference i.e. in your case, the Astra Militarum. This rules applies only for IFOR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhalla130 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'm looking forward to participating in my first ETL. Sorry if this has been covered already but do we post our commitments here or in each 8ndividual forum once it begins? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 The latter. Once the ETL-dedicated threads become live, I’ll lock this one to avoid confusion. The vows, progress pics and general ETL discussion should be contained within the ETL thread system to avoid spamming the boards with ETL threads and it will be easier for me too to track down what’s going on. Individual blogs will of course be allowed as normal. Just don’t expect me to comment or track them. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe robot gangster #1 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Probably a silly question, but on behalf of the AOD forum I must ask! The rules specify red books for AOD, but just for clarifications sake, does this include various units and characters not in the red books (1k sons, space wolves, black shields and various named characters)? Also, what about various units released by FW with only experimental rules (termite drill and that new SA transport for example)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 For AoD stuff like the Termite, I'm pretty sure it's whatever the current, most up to date points value is at the time you vow. So if you have a Termite in your vow as of May 1st, you use the experimental rules downloaded from the FW site. If, however, FW drop a new book between now and the end of the ETL (ha!), then the experimental rules are superceded, much like with the soon to be released Deathwatch and Harlies codices for 40k, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Stru is correct. Also the wording in the rules highlights in p. 15 is not the best - of course it includes all official rules from red AND black books as well as official pdf rules - even if experimental. The caveat is that the most recent rules (points and equipment configurations) must be used. So if a black book’s rules’ section is superseded by a red book, it’s the red book that should be followed. If the black book is the latest source for a specific unit, then of course it’s the black book that should be followed. Expect everything to be clear when the official rules get posted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 By the Emperor... you haven't changed one bit, Augustus. Change is for those tzeentchian weaklings. I dedicate my life to pain and suffering - Nurgle baby yeah! ;) Ok and a little bit of Khorne here and there, for kids and giggles. Wait, did I say that out loud? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Stru is correct. One for the sig, right there... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Eugh, time to clear my workspace and check my paints. I want everything ready for a May 1st vow and revow. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 That's a point, need to check if I actually own the paints I want to use for my new Alphas colour scheme, otherwise I'm gonna run into issues. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 That's a point, need to check if I actually own the paints I want to use for my new Alphas colour scheme, otherwise I'm gonna run into issues. Dragonlover Better get on that then bud, we cant have team Chaos looking like a bunch of n00bs now. :lol: Were proppah discipli... Oooo something shinys dancing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5066924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Wooooooo! The ETL Chaos OGs gather!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5067053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronze Beast in the Dark Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 You may only a pledge a single configuration. You cannot claim points for alternative loadouts, magnetisation, etc. So, other things being equal, you may as well pledge the most point-rich configuration. It would be so much easier to just to Power Levels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5067145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Then who knows who painted the most? Power levels aint exactly balanced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5067159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 It would be so much easier to just to Power Levels. We in the glorious Age of Darkness don't go by Power Levels, so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345917-its-been-a-long-time/page/20/#findComment-5067190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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