SillyDreadnought Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 The rule of 3 is not a beta rule tho. It is not even a rule. It is a guidline for tournaments. Which basically means it will seep into casual play. Tournament metas seep into casual metas. Tournament FAQ's affect casual play. To simply go "it's just a guideline" is consciously pretending that tournaments have zero affect on the majority of games played despite the contrary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346456-proactive-space-marine-changes-following-big-faq/page/2/#findComment-5068606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metzombie Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Our Club, at least the casual, non-tournament players, does not use them, If you chose to use them have fun with it. But that does not change the fact that it is not a rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346456-proactive-space-marine-changes-following-big-faq/page/2/#findComment-5068808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Points are a guideline. They aren't a rule. Power levels are a guideline. They aren't a rule.See how silly that argument is now? And those are the hard wired ways of ensuring a fair game for pick up gaming with the Matched Play rules. Tournament decisions always affect casual play. If this 0-3 unit limitation becomes a hard, codified part of the tournament scene ( and since the last big FAQ proved, "beta" rulings quickly become normal rulings while being virtually unchanged ) then it will, inevitably, seep into regular matched play games with points or power level. The exact same thing happened in 5th through to 7th edition. Tournament rulings, mission packs and mindsets affected non-tournament playing. Hell, it even affected terrain, which is one of the biggest factors in 40k that's constantly overlooked. It's not a matter of me not choosing to use it. It's that it will affect how I can play my games and build my lists in my local area or further afield. I have an entire themed list killed stone dead by this "guideline", which is why I posted earlier asking for tank squadrons. Selfish of me, but it's still a proactive change to the Space Marine codex as it allows the Space Marine player to have a modicum of flexibility with list building in the face of this new "guideline" for those of us who want to take our themed lists to events in future.And since scrapping the 0-3 unit limitation is off the table, the only options available to people like me, who take themed lists and only themed lists is to see some way to get the Codex updated to allow for those lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346456-proactive-space-marine-changes-following-big-faq/page/2/#findComment-5069206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 There are some guidelines that get used in casual play and some that don't. Table size gets used. Detachment limit often don't. Just as an example. My group won't be using the Datasheet limit the same way we aren't using the Detachment limit and I imagine many other local metas are doing it similarly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346456-proactive-space-marine-changes-following-big-faq/page/2/#findComment-5069300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I don’t like squadrons. Infantry bias. BUT ... If they’re going to squadron Leman’s then they damn well ought to at least do the same with anything less than a Landraider. Yep Predator and Whirlwinds especially ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346456-proactive-space-marine-changes-following-big-faq/page/2/#findComment-5069384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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