Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 I would hope the next Kill Team update (Commanders) has an apothecary. In the meantime, take the apothecary, run it as a tactical medic. (It better have at least something else though, the only space marine character mentioned in the reveal was a filthy witch bookkeeper!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5171118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I hope they release Draco as a Kill Team Commander. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5171162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Well, that release sucked. Primaris characters only?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5171730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hopefully, they will reveal more, better, commanders in the coming month. They talked about 41 kits. So yeah. Hopefully there will be a cool melee option for marines. With a commander you could maybe even do a workable melee kill team as Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5171770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 I genuinely think that's it. Just the Imperial and Xenos ones announced so far add up to 32. With only Chaos still to come. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5171822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Urgh. I didn'T think they'd be counting the normal 40k models as part of those 41. Would have been a really nice chance to reintroduce multipart characters and step away from those single pose models... Well okay. Converted gravis captain it will be at some point then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5171836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matis Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 :cuss it. I tried making Adeptus Astartes Black Templar kill teams but it just doesn't work and the commanders won't help :cuss. I can do effective primaris kill teams, but it's not what my overzealous melee specialists were made for. What I ended up doing is playing Deathwatch on paper and using BT models. I can give each guy a power weapon, combi- ,or stormshield, I have special melee dude that re-rolls charges, everyone has 2+ attacks and I can take both zealot and combat specialist. Plus I can use a non-primaris commander. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5177761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margulix Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 it. I tried making Adeptus Astartes Black Templar kill teams but it just doesn't work and the commanders won't help . I can do effective primaris kill teams, but it's not what my overzealous melee specialists were made for. What I ended up doing is playing Deathwatch on paper and using BT models. I can give each guy a power weapon, combi- ,or stormshield, I have special melee dude that re-rolls charges, everyone has 2+ attacks and I can take both zealot and combat specialist. Plus I can use a non-primaris commander. Yep for me KT sucks - it lacks 3 factions i have. Black Templars, sororitas and inquisition. and i do not even have models with bolters - only BP and chainswords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5177808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Initiates with Boltguns are hardly un-Templar guys. Do you even MSU Faux-Devi? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5177849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Bolterguys are very Templarlike... But I think you can play them with CS and BP instead of Bolter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5178035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matis Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Playing bolterguys is fine, but not being able to play any chainswordguys (apart from a single sergeant) sucks. So much for extensive customisation of every single model. Until GW stops pushing Primaris models down my every orifice, I'll stick to playing them as count-as-deathwatch, where I can run my emperor's champ as black shield zealot, give each model power maces, power swords or thunder hammers, plus plenty of combi plas/meltas, stormshields, etc. And if I do want to run primaris at some point, I can. Besides, the models are mostly black anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5179468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matis Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 This is a successful list for me so far, 2 meltas + 3 rapid fire plasmas to deal maximum multidamage wounds, plus every combi weapon can use the special ammo on the bolter mode. It's far from perfect, sarge has plasmagun that needs 1cp per shot to prevent overheat and I have to expose him to get good shots, but giving him melta would expose him even more. Everyone still has 1 wound and a single model going down is 20% of the army. On the other hand, the amount of kills you can pull of each shooting phase is nuts, plus you have 2 attacks with power weapons on every model (and black shield can charge with 4x Str 5 AP-3 attacks). I play against orks often, so I use power mauls, but they cost the same as power swords so you can switch them as needed. The list is also very CP hungry, 1cp every time you shoot plasmas (apart from sniper), some re-rolls and plenty of tactics to use in close combat. + Leader [20pts] + Watch Sergeant [20pts]: Combi-plasma [4pts], Leader + Specialists [61pts] + Black Shield [21pts]: Combi-melta [3pts], Power sword [2pts], Zealot Veteran [20pts]: Combi-plasma [4pts], Power maul [2pts], Sniper Veteran [20pts]: Combi-plasma [4pts], Comms, Power maul [2pts] + Non-specialists [19pts] + Veteran [19pts]: Combi-melta [3pts], Power maul [2pts] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5179477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matis Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 This is a simple, casual list. Everyone has special-ammo bolter and power weapon. 2 attacks with everyone, 3 with sarge, combat spec, black shield (+1 on charge). You have 1 more model than the previous list as well. You can make better lists with infernus bolters, shotguns, frag cannons, etc. but these two I think are the easiest to build for most BT players from the models and weapons they typically use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5179480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 My current "Deathwatch" Black Templar Sword Brethren list is this: Leader: Chaplain "Watch Sergeant" with power maul and combi-melta Combat: Emperor's Champion "Intercessor Sergeant" with power sword and bolt pistol Zealot: Vanguard "Black Shield" with power sword (axe) and storm shield Brethren: Veteran with combi-plasma Brethren: Veteran with combi-plasma 5 bodies, 98 points. I suppose I should give one of the com-plas guys a specialism. I wish I could find a way to have more bodies around the Champion and Chaplain, even if I lose killing power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5179658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allegedlynerdy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Chiming in here, this has worked pretty well for me: Sergeant:Power Sword & Plasma Pistol Specialist One: Tac Marine w/ Bolter; Specialization: Zealot Specialist 2: Tac Marine Gunner w/ Plasmagun Specialization: Demolitions Specialist 3: Tac Marine Gunner w/ Heavy Bolter Specialization: Heavy Regulars: 4x Scouts w/ Combat Knife and Bolt Pistols This generally works pretty well for me, and it's fairly fluffy (at least to how I run my crusade squads on occasion). Definitely wish we could get more CC but this works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5180793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 I didn't realise Tacticals could be zealots? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5180843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I don't believe Zealot is available on the Astartes list at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5181079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yeah Zealot is only available to our barely tolerated witches Grey Knight companions for Astarte factions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5181283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Arthur Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 And deathwatch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5181339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 And deathwatch This is why I prefer to run Templars as Deathwatch - that and the ability to make some real Sword Brethren! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5181506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
allegedlynerdy Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Gee, they can't be? Could have sworn... In that case run them as vets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5182051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haldredd Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Looks like it’ll finally be possible to get some proper Templar flavour into our kill teams with the new Elites expansion. Of course it’s adding Chapter Tactics (no confirmation yet but ours will almost certainly be the usual charge rerolls) but we’ll also be getting 3 flavours of veterans: Sternguard, Vanguard and Company Veterans. So for a few extra points you’ll be able to have a kill team of Sword Brethren, or kit out a close combat crusader squad, albeit one where the initiates are veterans. I’m looking forward to it! What would be your dream kill team using the new elite options along with the existing Astartes options? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5312273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Looks like it’ll finally be possible to get some proper Templar flavour into our kill teams with the new Elites expansion. Of course it’s adding Chapter Tactics (no confirmation yet but ours will almost certainly be the usual charge rerolls) but we’ll also be getting 3 flavours of veterans: Sternguard, Vanguard and Company Veterans. So for a few extra points you’ll be able to have a kill team of Sword Brethren, or kit out a close combat crusader squad, albeit one where the initiates are veterans. I’m looking forward to it! What would be your dream kill team using the new elite options along with the existing Astartes options? Re-rolling charges is confirmed. https://youtu.be/rPW_VzMpF8E?t=852 at 14:12 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5312332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Looks like it’ll finally be possible to get some proper Templar flavour into our kill teams with the new Elites expansion. Of course it’s adding Chapter Tactics (no confirmation yet but ours will almost certainly be the usual charge rerolls) but we’ll also be getting 3 flavours of veterans: Sternguard, Vanguard and Company Veterans. So for a few extra points you’ll be able to have a kill team of Sword Brethren, or kit out a close combat crusader squad, albeit one where the initiates are veterans. I’m looking forward to it! What would be your dream kill team using the new elite options along with the existing Astartes options? Re-rolling charges is confirmed. at 14:12 Anything else for us? I.e no Libby atleast Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5312367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Arthur Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I don’t think it specifies that we can’t take librarians. Probably an oversight. Unfortunately I don’t think the vets can take storm shields which is unfortunate cause I gave all my sword vets storm shields. Looks like I need more models. Edit: I'm blind, all vets except Sternguard can take storm shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348739-black-templar-kill-teams/page/3/#findComment-5312407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.