anarchistscourge Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm assuming there the same as the Adeptus Astartes with same points cost Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I thought the same but maybe they are slightly different thanks to SIA, or is that cost in the weapons now like 8th? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr4Minutes Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 The Guerrilla Miniature Games YouTube channel has some intro kill team games up. The main guy, Ash, is using DeathWatch if you guys want to see them in action. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 The Guerrilla Miniature Games YouTube channel has some intro kill team games up. The main guy, Ash, is using DeathWatch if you guys want to see them in action. Thanks for the heads up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 From what I can tell we only get Veterans, I watched the Winter SEO and he tells you the number of sheets each group gets and looks like we only get one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 From what I can tell we only get Veterans, I watched the Winter SEO and he tells you the number of sheets each group gets and looks like we only get one. The link in the first post of this thread says Intercessors and Reivers are also options, though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 From what I can tell we only get Veterans, I watched the Winter SEO and he tells you the number of sheets each group gets and looks like we only get one. The link in the first post of this thread says Intercessors and Reivers are also options, though... I'm with Lemondish, the double page only shows the veterans but intercessors and reivers are definitely an option - they were in the warhammer community article and are on the website too. I wonder if there is a page reference telling you to use the same entry as the space marines have or something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5127997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 From what I can tell we only get Veterans, I watched the Winter SEO and he tells you the number of sheets each group gets and looks like we only get one.The link in the first post of this thread says Intercessors and Reivers are also options, though... I'm with Lemondish, the double page only shows the veterans but intercessors and reivers are definitely an option - they were in the warhammer community article and are on the website too. I wonder if there is a page reference telling you to use the same entry as the space marines have or something like that. That's most likely the case considering how limited their wargear is anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I played a game today with five vets including a Sergeant and Black Shield. Bolters and power swords since no options for stornbolters or chainswords. Had a stormshield and Infernus Heavy Bolter too. Really enjoyed the game a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 From what I can tell we only get Veterans, I watched the Winter SEO and he tells you the number of sheets each group gets and looks like we only get one. He is completely wrong - DW gets primaris, they use SM sheets but replace SM keyword with DW keyword and SIA access. So, been thinking about possible loadouds. Depending on point costs, auto bolt rifles might be the best DW general-purpose gun here, since table is quite small ABR lack of range is more than equalized by volume of fire. Primaris stalker bolter seems completely pointless. As for Vets, while Black Orange is right and no-bits-no-rules disease eliminated storm bolters and chainswords from DW repertoire, combi-weapons cost a pittance (combi-melta is just 3 points, for example) so every Veteran that doesn't sport heavy weapon should be armed with combi and power weapon of some sort. All in all, looks better than I thought initially, sure, gear cuts to DW were dumb but others suffered worse so ironically DW arsenal now dwarfs that of CSM and SM, only being equaled by DG... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Deathwatch Primaris can take Intercessors and Reivers... Vets are so much more sexy though. I’d advise against combi plasma unless you don’t overcharge unless absolutely necessary. Combi flamers will be great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Looks like you can mix vets and Primaris. https://youtu.be/G2iWlPK_sg0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Why would you overcharge it? 95% of the targets in Kill Team doesn't warrant it. Combi-plasma is just better storm bolter when used in regular firing mode. So, for DW Kill Team I think best composition is Primaris sergeant as leader for durability, Blackshield for melee though seeing he is slow Reiver might be better, 1-2 heavy weapon operators, rest being a mix of what you can take (Reivers, some Intercessors, maybe Veteran sniper or plasma-gunner) depending on the opposition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 If you roll a 1 to hit while supercharging the model is simply removed and there’s a lot of minus to hit modifiers. The combi plasma is cheap though as you pointed out. I agree an Intercessor is probably the best choice for your team leader. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr4Minutes Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 A black shield combat specialist would get 4 attacks base. I’m thinking storm shield and a power maul would be fun. He also rerolls charges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I used one today with a power sword and stormshield - he ripped apart some guardsmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Crayons Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 A black shield combat specialist would get 4 attacks base. I’m thinking storm shield and a power maul would be fun. He also rerolls charges. I literally just magnetized this very same setup, can’t wait to try it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidras Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 So what would you all recommend for a starting kill team? I have the 5 man kill team box and the Deathwatch upgrade kit + the primaris from Dark Imperium. I definitely want a couple heavies with an Infenus HB and a Frag launcher. And maybe a close combat guy with xenophase blade and storm shield. Beyond the advice above to get a primaris sergeant as the leader not sure what else I should take to round out the squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigAristotle Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Got hands-on a Rule Book today at my local GW store. DW Vets are 14 points, Heavy Thunder Hammers and Frag Cannons are both 5 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 And maybe a close combat guy with xenophase blade and storm shield. Sadly, only normal sergeant can take xenophase blade (which is kind of dumb). I am not sure if you can take him as second, non-leader sergeant (since you definitely don't want to rush your leader forward) but if so, either veteran sergeant or black shield both make good combat specialists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntpencil Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Are all the options the same as in 40K? For instance, can I take Storm Shield and Storm Bolter, a combo most of my dudes are armed with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer grimblood Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Can Primaris and Vets be mixed in the same team? An Intercessor Sgt, Reaver and then a couple Veteran gunners, for example? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 . Are all the options the same as in 40K? For instance, can I take Storm Shield and Storm Bolter, a combo most of my dudes are armed with? From what I've seen if it's not in the boxed set then it's not an option - so no storm bolter veterans. Personally glad I didn't cannibalise all my old kill team vets for the new edition book yet! Can Primaris and Vets be mixed in the same team? An Intercessor Sgt, Reaver and then a couple Veteran gunners, for example?Yes to this. It's a kill team, not just one squad of all the same dudes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Wish we could have proper breachers, the shotguns are looking really good now. Any one think a Blackshield with a shield and maul is worth the points? Also not sure why you would take an Infernus at all with it costing the same as the Frag Cannon. Same autohit at 8" and the range of the HB is kind of wasted. My first try was: Vet Sgt with Xenophase and Shield, BlackShield with Maul and Shield, Vet with FragCannon, Vet with Frag Cannon, Vet with Shotgun. Comes too 100 Exactly. I would of liked to have added an intercessor last but the Bolt Rifle costing 2 put me over :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Also not sure why you would take an Infernus at all with it costing the same as the Frag Cannon. Same autohit at 8" and the range of the HB is kind of wasted. I suppose 3 shots not 2 and the range isn't wasted, you're accurate to 18 inches instead of 12. Though yes, the fact they have same points is dumb. Your team has very light shooting and small wound pool, I'd take primaris with rifles instead of first of last guy, but that's just my preference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348872-kill-team-focus-deathwatch/page/2/#findComment-5128676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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