Morovir Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Agreed. Especially the bits describing Mortarion's pettiness in his demesne. His gates are seven centimetres taller than the Eternity Gate, the cupola is fractionally taller than that on the Senatorum Imperialis, and the walls are steeper by seven degrees. DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5156517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Ferrus is also definitely dead, his body dismembered and his skull given by Guilliman to the Iron Hands to get them to accept the Codex. Nuh uh, not says Fabius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5156574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morovir Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 And you'll notice that none of them had his hands, and so none of them will ever truly be him, rendering the point moot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5156583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Jag is hinted to be returning in The Last Hunt. Would be surprised if GW confirms the death of Jag, Corax, or Dorn. They're all potential money-makers to amp up interest during commercial lulls. Ferrus and Sang are truly dead but the former is possibly linked to LotD and the latter the Sanguinor Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5156700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 They can always bring a dead character back through the warp. Or in Sangy's case since the body is perfectly preserved just put the soul back into him. Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5156771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 They need to bring back Lorgar! ... with Corax chasing him in smokey raven form! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5157556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) For my money it is taking far too long for GW to bring some of these Primarchs back. Far, far too long. It was great that a start was made, but now they need to push on, and I agree that we need to see more loyalists come back. Russ is number 1 on my list, most keen to see him return and with everything that's happening, seems such an obvious choice, what on Earth is keeping them. Secondly also Dorn, The Khan, and Corax. But throw in Sanguinius and I'd love that very much as well. Edited August 30, 2018 by Taliesin Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5157563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 For my money it is taking far too long for GW to bring some of these Primarchs back. Far, far too long. It was great that a start was made, but now they need to push on, and I agree that we need to see more loyalists come back. Russ is number 1 on my list, most keen to see him return and with everything that's happening, seems such an obvious choice, what on Earth is keeping them. Secondly also Dorn, The Khan, and Corax. But throw in Sanguinius and I'd love that very much as well. Khan, Corax, Russ. Thats a 'yes'. Dorn? I would rather he be dead. Sanguinius? He IS dead. mc warhammer, Tipsy Techpriest and Marshal Loss 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5157620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Njal Stotmcaller: Even so, I saw a sleeper entombed in rock, and a white storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning. A shadow rises to the call of the Allfather’s messengers, a darkness that strikes from within. Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5157641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Njal Stotmcaller: Even so, I saw a sleeper entombed in rock, and a white storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning. A shadow rises to the call of the Allfather’s messengers, a darkness that strikes from within. Sleeper = Lion? White storm = Khan? A shadow? A darkness? = Corax? They would need Traitor Primarchs to even things out a bit perhaps. Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5157862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Finished the book. Now I’m sad cause I’m out of good Death Guard reads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5158046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 For my money it is taking far too long for GW to bring some of these Primarchs back. Far, far too long. It was great that a start was made, but now they need to push on, and I agree that we need to see more loyalists come back. Russ is number 1 on my list, most keen to see him return and with everything that's happening, seems such an obvious choice, what on Earth is keeping them. Secondly also Dorn, The Khan, and Corax. But throw in Sanguinius and I'd love that very much as well. Have they said they are bringing more of them back? For my money I didn’t want any of them back, legends should be legends. Exploring them in a seperate series like Heresy or the primarchs is great but it shouldn’t be part of 40k. Full stop D3L 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5158535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Loving this so far - only a third of the way in, but so far it’s everything I’d hoped it would be. Very cool stuff. The comparison to the accounts of Talos et al are, happily, quite accurate :) Back to reading I go! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5158544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) So my Special Edition arrived, and it wasn't signed by the author, as advertised. Thanks BL But I've started reading, and it is superb so far. Incredibly excited to continue! Edited September 2, 2018 by Marshal Loss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5159172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Started today after finishing the magnificent Slaves to Darkness. I can almost see myself finally dragged into the traitor's cause. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5159198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer216 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Now that I’ve actually started reading it, it reminds me of (dare I compare) ADB’s Night Lords. Lots of interactions with the Legion and the ship’s crew, etc. I had exactly the same feeling – the fact that Lords of Silence evokes many of the same emotions that I got from my first read of Soul Hunter (which, in combination with its sequels, I consider to be ADB's best work), when the protagonists in the former are walking bags of pus speaks volumes about Chris's writing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5160411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 So my Special Edition arrived, and it wasn't signed by the author, as advertised. Thanks BL But I've started reading, and it is superb so far. Incredibly excited to continue! I would contact them about that. BL are pretty good at sorting out mistakes. The special edition is lovely isn’t it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5160882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Read some of this at Warhammer Fest, have to admit I didn't care for it and didn't pick up a copy. Even though it's Wraight, it didn't do anything for me. I expect Haley's Dark Imperium II and The Buried Dagger will feature plots and developments much more to my liking. Hate to drag this off subject but, Dark Imperium II? When was this announced and when is it coming? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Njal Stotmcaller:Even so, I saw a sleeper entombed in rock, and a white storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning. A shadow rises to the call of the Allfather’s messengers, a darkness that strikes from within. Sleeper = Lion? White storm = Khan? A shadow? A darkness? = Corax? They would need Traitor Primarchs to even things out a bit perhaps. This isn't the full prophecy. "None, my lord. There are stirrings, tempests through which even I cannot gaze. Even so, I saw a sleeper entombed in rock, and a white storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning. A shadow rises to the call of the Allfather’s messengers, a darkness that strikes from within. The benighted ones turn their supernal gazes upon our worlds – the Eater of Worlds, the Corpse-King and the Misbegotten Child move once more. The Cyclopean Fiend, we have already seen. Even the Golden One has broken his gaze from the Empyrean again. I felt its glare like a fire in my soul." Lion, Khan, Corax(?), Angron, Morty, Fulgrim, Magnus, Logar, and we know Robbie is around writting Codex 2.0. So it makes 5 traitors, 4 loyalist. So if the prophecy is true we need a 5th loyalist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Read some of this at Warhammer Fest, have to admit I didn't care for it and didn't pick up a copy. Even though it's Wraight, it didn't do anything for me. I expect Haley's Dark Imperium II and The Buried Dagger will feature plots and developments much more to my liking. Hate to drag this off subject but, Dark Imperium II? When was this announced and when is it coming? https://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/october/dark-imperium-plague-war.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) Read some of this at Warhammer Fest, have to admit I didn't care for it and didn't pick up a copy. Even though it's Wraight, it didn't do anything for me. I expect Haley's Dark Imperium II and The Buried Dagger will feature plots and developments much more to my liking. Hate to drag this off subject but, Dark Imperium II? When was this announced and when is it coming? https://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/october/dark-imperium-plague-war.html Ah I must have glimpsed over that because it doesn't show as a physical book in the coming soon page. I can't take electronics into work and I do most of my reading during lunch. Guess I will settle for a write up from someone else. Edited September 5, 2018 by Jarl Caldersson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Mortarion said all surviving primarchs are back in this book. You don't have to read the tea leaves he literally states it as already happened. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Trying to avoid spoilers so apologies if this has already been said, but I LOVED the cover of this (iBooks version at least) I hope more books especially 40K do the moving cover animation thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Mortarion said all surviving primarchs are back in this book. You don't have to read the tea leaves he literally states it as already happened. Quote, for those of us who have to wait forever to get these things? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Mortarion said all surviving primarchs are back in this book. You don't have to read the tea leaves he literally states it as already happened. Quote, for those of us who have to wait forever to get these things? I can't quote the entire passage but it goes like this: One of the main characters is a leader of a warband of Death Guard called Lords of Silence. He finally gets to talk to Mortarion face to face after about 10k years on the Plague Planet. Mortarion is telling him about things that to Mortarion as a demon primarch who is timeless meaning that Morty can see his own past and future at the same time. In the real timeline this conversation is right before Cadia falls and the Great Rift opens. Morty is telling him about how all the primarchs have returned and are fighting each other. All the demon primarchs have come out of the Eye and the surviving loyalist sons, all of them, have been found and are fighting the chaos primarchs. When the warband leader is completely confused since none of this has happened yet, Morty is puzzled until he says something like "Oh that's right son, you don't see time like I do." So Morty is speaking of all the primarchs back in 40k timeline as something that has already happened. Because it has. It just hasn't happened in "real" time yet at that point in the story. But we the readers now know that the plan from GW is in fact to bring ALL the surviving primarchs, traitor and loyal, back into 40k storyline and having them fight each other again. Slan Drakkos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348972-the-lords-of-silence/page/4/#findComment-5161843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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