Prot Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I've just noticed very, very little talk about Codex Astartes in Kill Team. I'm wondering specifically if any one here is going to take their Ultra's in to the format? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I'll be taking my Ultramarines into Kill Team ….. Manager at my local game store MADE me pick up the KT rules Saturday (she is sooo ruthless). Haven't had a chance to finish reading through it all yet, but I'm optimistic (or just a glutton for punishment). A small squad level skirmish game suits me well at this time for several reasons. Firstly, the bulk of my collection will be in storage for the next year of so while I'm building a new house. Second and equally important, the sons of a couple of loyal imperial citizens have expressed a keen interest in 40K, and with their parents enthusiastic approval I will be initiating these young neophytes into the ways of the Adeptus Astartes. I picked up a couple of boxes of Primaris Intercessors for them this weekend and left my copy of Codex: Space Marines with them this week to peruse and decide on a Chapter. As all my kids are grown and my grandkids have no interest in 40K this should be a lot of fun. As the rules permit I'll be fielding several teams, one old style Ultras, one Primaris, and one combination. This should keep us well occupied, and if the young Scouts enjoy it, their parents won't have to shell out a lot of money for a Space Marine army (yet)...… therefore they won't hate me..... well, they won't hate me yet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nice. We’ll make sure you let us k is his you’re doing. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I am definitely taking my ultra's to kill team. I love playing campaigns and kill team seems to fit right into the style for special missions. No clues about the rules and how to muster a force yet, because I haven't picked up the rules yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I will be playing Kill Team for the first time on Saturday and will be using Ultras.This is for two reasons:1: I have more painted Ultras than you can shake a stick at.2: I have the cards for Astartes but the Astra Militarum ones aren't out until Saturday.I haven't written a list yet but I think for my first game I'll probably be going mostly Primaris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I definitely will. I just bought a squad of Orks for my gf to use and for me to slaughter :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadEdric Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I'll be using my Ultramarines this weekend. Tac Sgt. Leader w/ plasma pistol, auspex Reiver Sgt. Combat w/ pistol, combat blade Scout Comms w/ sniper rile, camo cloak Tac gunner Sniper w/ plasmagun Tac marine w/bolter Tac marine w/ bolter Tac gunner w/ plasmagun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 What does the auspex do ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadEdric Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 What does the auspex do ? Allows one member within 3" to ignore obscured. I figure that and +1 to hit from the comms, plus rerolling 1's will make the plasma sniper able to supercharge most times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiel Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I've played 3 games of Killteam using Codex Marines (Ultramarines).Two of them were with mostly Primaris Marines with one tac-marine carryng a heavy bolter in one game, missile launcher in the other. The rest of the squad were primaris intercessors with a reiver or two. This killteam did very well in both games.My third game was with pure scouts. I managed to fit 9 scouts in, with two being snipers and one heavy bolter. This killteam did worse, but they also faced a thousand sons list (rubric marines are near impossible to take down with bolters). So I don't know if pure scouts is as bad as the game made it seem, it might just have been thousand sons being good in general.On a final note, when you give a primaris sergeant a power sword, he gets 3 power sword attacks. This seems to be pretty good by killteam standards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatusJoe Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Yes, because Usain Bolter the Uber Sniper must come into Kill Team from Shadow War. Long story short, he was a legendary sniper scout who I mercilessly upgraded over a campaign in Shadow War and people hated playing against him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5136936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I just play KT for casual pick up games... it’s always a good time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 I’m bouncing between Ultra and DW for my Kill Team and aside from the scout option I’m not sure what to do with Ultramarines for a load out. So far I’m thinking a Intercessor leader, and Intercessor with a grenade launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I am doing Deathwatch - they are really good at KT . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I'm going with Primaris Ultras because the Reivers are really good. You can have a Reiver sgt with 5 attacks in cc if you give him the cc focus. I have an Intercessor sgt with power sword leading, I'm just painting up a new one for my Kill team in a more flashy and dynamic pose I made from several kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 I am doing Deathwatch - they are really good at KT . I could easily do Deathwatch. I know they are 10 times better than Ultra's in a lot of ways. But I think a lot of people at the store will be jumping on that wagon and I feel a need to stick out the Ultra's if I don't do Death Guard. I'm going with Primaris Ultras because the Reivers are really good. You can have a Reiver sgt with 5 attacks in cc if you give him the cc focus. I have an Intercessor sgt with power sword leading, I'm just painting up a new one for my Kill team in a more flashy and dynamic pose I made from several kits. My potential KT is mixed. I have two reivers in it, 2 Intercessors a scout heavy bolter gunner, and tactical Auspex dude. A good mix. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I am probably one of the only person in my area that plays any Marines at all besides BA and DA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 well I should clarify.... at the local GW, there are lots of kids with tons of rainbow marines. some with upwards of 27 layers of paint, depending on the codex of the month. Competitively no one is playing Codex Astartes (just the odd RG). Deathwatch are catching on hard here though, but I would be the only person who's played them with any serious attempts here, but the GW store has a good amount of DW too. What cracks me up about Ultra, is I know if I play my competitive group I have no other Ultra players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I think one of the strongest models Marines can take in Kill Team is an Intercessor Gunner with Auxiliary Grenade Launcher and Demolitions specialism. That gives you a 30" S6 AP-1 D1d3 shot that ignores the Long Range penalty due being a grenade (or 1d6 30" S3 AP0 D1 shots against stuff like Cultists I guess) and the Demolitions specialism gives you +1 to-wound against units in Cover (basically lets you wound everything in the game on 2+ with Krak grenades), re-roll hit-rolls of 1 at level 2, +1 to Injury rolls against models in Cover at level 3. Plus a bunch of useful Tactics like +1 to-wound (in case your target is not in Cover or you want to use Frag grenades), a 5+++ at level 2 or a super devastating Krak grenade with +2 damage to make sure the target really dies. Literally the only downside to this guy is the meh AP and low rate of fire on the good profile. He acts more like a sniper with his Krak grenades lol (doesn't need the Sniper specialism tho) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Yeah definitely, I'm including one for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 well I should clarify.... at the local GW, there are lots of kids with tons of rainbow marines. some with upwards of 27 layers of paint, depending on the codex of the month. Competitively no one is playing Codex Astartes (just the odd RG). Deathwatch are catching on hard here though, but I would be the only person who's played them with any serious attempts here, but the GW store has a good amount of DW too. What cracks me up about Ultra, is I know if I play my competitive group I have no other Ultra players. Lol Prot, where is your community's love of the lore?? Sounds like everyone is a meta chaser. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Prots local meta is very competetive orientated and less casual unfortunately. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiel Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Grenades ignore the range penalty to hit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Grenades ignore the range penalty to hit? Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiel Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Grenades ignore the range penalty to hit? Yes. That's good to hear and I will try it out. But I can't find the rule for it right now. EDIT: Found it. Pg 31. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349301-anyone-taking-their-ultras-into-kill-team/#findComment-5137886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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