librisrouge Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Hellhounds are magic...except magic is heresy, so hellhounds are ZEAL! I have three and my AM armies always feel a little bit less when I don't use them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5309746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Haha I could always use more zeal for the Emperor! Especially when manifested in the form tank mounted flamethrowers... Yeah I'm getting bored of blocking in colors on my cavalry. I think I'll take a break and paint a tank! I've honestly been putting it off because it needed a lot of work. It was a bit of a salvage buy. I'll post some pics soon. It's an old chimera chassis with metal conversion bits, which seems odd. Not sure when those were a thing but it looks pretty cool and has served me well so far on the tabletop. Anyone have experience running the krieg variant? Does it still have d6 shots at 2dmg each? I'm thinking of using it to complete an outrider detachment of death riders but can't decide if I should just run more horses and put this in another detachment. Beams and duz_ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5310239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Hermit Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 This is a great thread. I really like what you've got going so far. Beams 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5310972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Thanks Hermit! There's more to come shortly I hope... Here is a before picture of my hellhound. As mentioned earlier it seems to be a weird hybrid of a plastic chimera chassis and metal upgrade parts. I bought it used for somewhere between 5 and 10 US dollars and I think it's going to end up looking okay once it gets a good paintjob. The glue on this thing was pretty rough. I filed and scraped as much as I really could and I actually managed to get most of it off. Also there were a few gaps between some of the armor plates that I have (less than expertly) filled with green stuff. I'm hoping a little scraping once it's dry and a nice smooth airbrushing will hide most of the "fixed" areas. Wish me luck! Any greenstuff tips for the future? I've just realized that I'm terrible at it. Also, if anyone has any experience painting Ventrillian vehicles I could really use some tips on what colors to use. Judging by the picture below it looks like Peachy is using a dark grey for most of the vehicle hull. Something like Skavenblight dinge and stormvermin fur for highlights? Although now it looks even lighter and slightly greyish blue? Like almost a Russ grey? If you couldn't tell, I really have no idea. Help! I like to stick with GW paints just out of a compulsive need for paint pot uniformity so if you can suggest GW stuff that would be best. Otherwise, I guess I could try and fight the OCD if I really have to. As a side note, if I'm not allowed to shamelessly copy and paste images from a google search here, I apologize. Edited May 12, 2019 by Expendable_Aquanaut WarriorFish, The Mad Hermit and duz_ 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5312554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Hermit Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I'm pretty sure that's the original kit from way back in the day. I started in Second Edition so I'd (probably) know. Haven't seen one in AGES, though. I'm really, really looking forward to seeing it painted up as I'm sure it'll bring back the memories. walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5312571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Yes, that's the original Hellhound - I have two (and two newer ones, I like them so much ;) ). They were a bit of a pain to assemble, I had to twist and bend the cannisters into shape to fit but it was worth it. You have a bit of Guard history! duz_, The Mad Hermit and walter h 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5312625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Wow! That takes me back!! Looking forward to seeing your progress with this project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5312698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RADU LYKAN Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Old hellhound is the best hellhound :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5313123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 They are based on the chiros red guard from bols macharius supplement Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5314701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Hello all, A special thanks to the more veteran commanders who were able to properly ID my hellhound model! As I mentioned earlier, I purchased it for somewhere between five and ten US dollars and it was in pretty bad shape. Unfortunately I was not able to get all of the glue off of it and there were some significant flaws in its construction. That said, I enjoy the fact that it is kind of a vintage model and I plan on salvaging it as best as I can. Also, this is far from done but I'm going out of town (again!) so I thought I would just post my progress so far before I leave. Without further delay, I have some WIP shots to share! I put some squadron markings on the left side of the hellhound and I had a few infantrymen lying about so I added them in for scale purposes. Also because it looks cooler. Here's the other side... And lastly, a view from the top, with some (more noble than your average Ventrillian) knights! A couple thoughts: - I think like the grey but I can't seem to get it to pop. Any ideas? - I'm not sure it is the exact Ventrillian grey but it seems close enough to what Peachy was using on his sentinels so I'm okay with it. - Do you think I should paint the turret white instead of grey? WarriorFish, The Ergonomic Enginseer, duz_ and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I think it's fine, tanks don't need to mirror the infantry scheme and it's a great way to do something a bit different. See how you feel about the grey after having the model for a while, and don't forget things don't stand in isolation so adding another tank will be a good idea ;) If you do want to mix the grey up a bit, a white stripe would go far I think. Alternatively some battle damage and weathering will break it up :) walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Looks great! Actually its fairly similar to what my tanks are painted these days I think the gold and maroon are enough to give it some pop and contrast :tu: Expendable_Aquanaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) Your hellhound looks great! The one change I would suggest would be to drill out the barrels on the turret, or to at least paint some black dots there - right now, the promethium has no way to get out. I would leave the turret grey, but if you want to bring a bit more colour to it, I would put the purple and white stripes you have on the side of the hull on the sides of the turret as well. As well, if you are looking for some more "top appeal", you could bring the stripes onto the top of the "bulge" they are painted on (so, next to the tracks). Edited May 21, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the tips! Please keep them coming. WarriorFish: I was actually thinking the same thing about the white stripe. I might have to try it. I'm also planning on doing a little bit of weathering on the hull but I'm hoping to keep it to a minimum: these are Ventrillian nobles after all. They likely wouldn't be caught dead with a scratch on their flamethrower tank. Dr. R.: Good catch! Unfortunately I have misplaced my hand drill but as soon as I find it I'll make sure the prometheum is flowing properly! Duz: Thanks for the encouragement! And as a side note, I've been meaning to put these guys together for a while and never got around to it, until now. I know they don't technically have feathers but I think I dig the crazy headgear and it could be absurd enough to work. Let me know what you all think. Ventrillian scions! The guy on the right is a proof of concept. I think he turned out well enough to follow the same color scheme with the rest of the guys. Here's a better picture of the proof of concept model: I'm thinking of doing a few more with the traditional feathery helmets but I like these guys as a command squad - kind of like an honor guard or something for the Lord Commander. Edited May 21, 2019 by Expendable_Aquanaut Chaplain Raeven, Dr_Ruminahui, Nicodemus Doloroso and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Omg those are some crazy helmets! They look great!! walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) The helmets sure are over-the-top, but I think they are fine provided you only put them (the closed face ones at lease) to models that are in carapace armour. In other words, I would keep the closed faced ones for your scions, but the open faced ones would work fine for officers and command squads. Edited May 21, 2019 by Dr_Ruminahui Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Hello all, A special thanks to the more veteran commanders who were able to properly ID my hellhound model! As I mentioned earlier, I purchased it for somewhere between five and ten US dollars and it was in pretty bad shape. Unfortunately I was not able to get all of the glue off of it and there were some significant flaws in its construction. See, this is what grinds my gears. Other, more talented people: "Oh no, my model has problems. Oh well, I guess I'll just make it work." *Reveals something AMAZING* Me, looking at my hot mess: "Well, ...shoot." I kid, of course. That hellhound does Him proud and you did an awesome job on it. Beams and Expendable_Aquanaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Your works look most promising. Beams and Expendable_Aquanaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Loving those Scions! I think the over the top helmets work really well, gives them an air of regality. Keep ‘em coming. Expendable_Aquanaut and Beams 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Your Ventrillian nobles look fantastic, man ... kudos on all the conversions and the painting. You captured the colours perfectly. What is your recipe for that purple? Looks amazing. Beams and Expendable_Aquanaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5318854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 Thanks all! Your encouragement makes the daunting task of finishing this army a little more manageable. Yeah don't worry Dr. R., I only plan on using the crazy helmets on the scions. I feel like Ventrillian scions (at least the command squad variants) should be pretty over the top and the helmets seem to fulfill that requirement! Also, thanks Nico. The purple is actually just screamer pink highlighted with pink horror. For vehicles and such I do some pre shading (if that's the correct term) with chaos black for all the recesses and ulthuan grey for anything that should be highlighted. I'm trying to keep things simple and not mix any custom colors so that the whole army matches a bit better. All this painting has got me thinking though: I haven't finished a normal guardsman command squad! I think what's holding me back is that I haven't been able to find a banner that is sufficiently ostentatious. Maybe the grim reaper one from the empire general kit? I'm not sure it entirely fits though. If you all have any suggestions I would definitely appreciate them! Anyway, I should be getting in a few games next week so I'll try and post some battle reports with everything I've been working on. As always, thanks for reading! Beams, duz_ and Nicodemus Doloroso 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5319926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 great work here, i love the pre-shading you do on your vehicles..Airbrush?... the over the top helmets are a Blast and very fluffy for those pompous stuck up nobles .... " Trooper Fortescue barrington the Third !... For the Emperor's sake Lad,put your helmet back on, the unit's Honor is at stake here...if you die helmet-less ...oh the paperwork i'll need to fill out!... ++side note++ on peachy's Taurox..it may even be thunderhawk blue?... that's a blue/grey colour too Cheers, Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5320097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Thanks Mithril! I had a good laugh reading your comment. I may have to name one of the new guys as per your suggestion... That said, I do use an airbrush for vehicle painting. I wasn't sure about it at first but with a little bit of practice I think I've gotten used to it enough to never paint another vehicle solely by hand ever again! It's so much faster and I really like the end result. And you know I was thinking the same thing about the thunderhawk blue. I unfortunately already have three thunderhawk blue tauroxes for my scions though so I'm not sure I really want to paint anything else that color. It also seems to be just a little bit too blue but that could just be attributed to the picture quality. It is close though. And that brings up a good point: I do have another taurox sitting around, unassembled that I should likely build for my nobles. Oh well, I'll put it on the ever growing list of projects. Speaking of projects... I picked up a little something the other day while I was trawling the internet for cool warhammer stuff. It's a smoke machine! "All right lads, believing in zombies is heresy but so is failing to smite them in the Emperor's name when they inevitably show up. Barrington, you're on point. Do try to keep track of your helmet this time!" I set it up so that flexible tubing runs from the machine into each of the crypts in the photo. Then the smoke just pours out of the crypts like something spooky is happening. I'm a little bit too excited about it. Needless to say, I haven't gotten any painting done since I returned from my trip. This has taken up most of my hobby time. Anyway, this is hopefully just a sneak peak of more things to come! WarriorFish, Exilyth, Beams and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5321511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expendable_Aquanaut Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Oh, I did forget to mention that this just runs on water and not fog juice so it doesn't leave any film on the miniatures. The only issue is that it does put out a bit of condensation. The neoprene mat seems to be fine with it but I'm not positive that it's okay to get painted plastic wet. Anyone have any experience with this? So far so good but I just don't know how careful to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5321539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Omg smoke machine no frikken way! Link? If you've sealed your minis probably no big deal However I have had rain leave water marks on some of my minis guess it depends how clean the water is? Maybe use distilled water just in case? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349529-ventrillian-nobles/page/2/#findComment-5321546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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