BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Rumor has it Dorn decided to enslave the Emperor to the Golden Throne in a fit of rage . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Rumor has it Dorn decided to enslave the Emperor to the Golden Throne in a fit of rage .After the Emperor kills Sanguinius, and redeemed Horus dies trying to save him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Rumor has it Dorn decided to enslave the Emperor to the Golden Throne in a fit of rage .After the Emperor kills Sanguinius, and redeemed Horus dies trying to save him. How to burn down the Warhammer community, in 13 words. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Sanguinius killed Horus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedor Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Once the Siege ends, i'd rather BL just keep everything from HH timeline onward open as a setting and let the authors delve into what they want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 .... -taps the big evil spiky table of the Chaos Conference Center- I wouldn't be the most displeased if the False Emperor turned out to have killed the glorious albeit weakened bird boy for a power up. Obviously, after having thrown him to the Lupercal who was unable to strike the death blow against his favourite brother, "this isn't even my final form, Horus!" Ahem... as much as I want Black Books focused on the scouring as they have more of a military 'history' bent on it, writing a full black library series is more like a 20-50 book denouement. It's a winding down of so many stakes and false anti-climaxes that I think it would work about as well as the Hobbit movie did to Lord of the Rings; all the real action and build up is already done, it's just a little bit of a petering out with a few notable events that capture people's attention. I would like to see a BL series for the crusades or for the Unification War to some extent though it risks the Hobbit gambit. But really, I get the feeling that a lot of the story for GW's 'XXK' series will be momentum going forward and adding primarchs back, not going back and losing more primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 No prequels for me, no thank you . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What, you make it sound like prequels are typically a bad idea or something. Can't imagine where you got that mindset from. Admittedly HH is a prequel and I've liked it more than anything 40K's done in 20 years, literature wise (the absolute bleeding edge newest stuff I have no opinion on as I have Dark Imperium on the 'to read list'). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I don't see Gw releasing a game for the Unification War any time soon... Thunder Warriors anyone ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What, you make it sound like prequels are typically a bad idea or something. Can't imagine where you got that mindset from. Admittedly HH is a prequel and I've liked it more than anything 40K's done in 20 years, literature wise (the absolute bleeding edge newest stuff I have no opinion on as I have Dark Imperium on the 'to read list'). As my name suggests - I am a big fan of the Dune novels (Frank Herbert's books). What Brian and Kevin did with their various prequels is simply horrific. We totally absolutely should never have had books about the Butlerian Jihad. It was so much better left to our imaginations. Same goes for the Great Crusade, Unification Wars and Dark Age of Technology. BL PLEASE LEAVE THOSE WELL ALONE AND MAINTAIN THEM AS MYTHS AND LEGENDS...PLEASE!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 It doesn't need to be more than one novel to do it the justice we deserve .Of course it does. There’s no way to satisfyingly cover the whole siege of Terra in one novel. A lot happens in the Siege, over the course of a serious chunk of a year. Like, a lot. And it also needs to wrap up the arcs of about a hundred characters, one way or another. Hell, even if it didn't, a lot of stuff goes down in the Siege. Plus, we'd be crucified by the fandom for just doing it in one book. I'm breaking out in hives and fear-sweat just imagining the online fury. I am sure there will be at least 15 novels and it ends up getting very diluted. One novel would have been very exciting and that is what we were all expecting.I don’t think many people were expecting one novel for the siege. Considering the series had an opening trilogy, a closing trilogy was probably expected. And I’m not sure who’s being an apologist (or even what for?). I've quite literally never seen a single person say they were expecting (or wanting) just one Siege novel, until today. And I post on / read a lot of 40K forums, subreddits, and FB groups. Now, in what will come as absolutely no surprise to anyone who has even a passing familiarity with me, I was one of the ones on the HH team arguing for the least number of Siege novels. I think I was tied with another author on saying it needed to be the lowest number in the list of possible final figures. But doing it in a single novel just isn't something that matches up with the lore of what goes down on Terra. Hyperbolic claims of "It'll be a million novels, etc." are funny but no, it really won't be. What would be the death toll in the Siege of Terra? Which subfactions would be involve in the siege novels? Shpuld we expect surprise appearance of certain characters or factions? (Craftworld Eldar, Eldrad, Trazyn, Legion of the Damned, An'ggrath, Orks, etc.) Would Blackshields be on Terra? Would any other Loyalist Primarch besides Sanguinius die? What is your estimate on how many novels for the Siege? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What would be the death toll in the Siege of Terra? Which subfactions would be involve in the siege novels? Shpuld we expect surprise appearance of certain characters or factions? (Craftworld Eldar, Eldrad, Trazyn, Legion of the Damned, An'ggrath, Orks, etc.) Would Blackshields be on Terra? Would any other Loyalist Primarch besides Sanguinius die? What is your estimate on how many novels for the Siege? 1. Many. 2. The ones established by pre-existing fluff. AKA Not the ones who soaked up too much ink already. 3. No. 4. No. 5. No. 6. 3 You are welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 AD-B: did John French deliberately withhold Sigismund going all Iko Uwais in PoD to build anticipation for when he slips the leash on Terra? Re the one novel argument: I suspect particular authors want to give "their Legions' a proper send off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Q1) What would be the death toll in the Siege of Terra? Prolly several billion .Q2) Which subfactions would be involve in the siege novels? Here are some - Blood Angels, White Scars, Imperial Fists, Custodes... Sons of Horus, World Eaters Q3) Shpuld we expect surprise appearance of certain characters or factions?Are you serious regarding any of the characters you listed ?!Q4) Would Blackshields be on Terra? Prolly not . Q5) Would any other Loyalist Primarch besides Sanguinius die? Eventually . Q6) What is your estimate on how many novels for the Siege? Prolly 20 or more but at least 15 . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The final Emperor and Horus fight will be: Sanguinius fights and covers Horus in tears. Then he loses. The Emperor comes in and fights and gets very damaged. Ollanius comes along with his athame blade and stabs Horus causing the chink in his armour. Horus vaporises him in a fit of rage. The Emperor sees His “last chance” with the chink in Horus’s armour and does the mind bullet. Dorn finds The Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonreaper666 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Should the Emperor's soul-destroying spell have a permanent negative side effect on the Emperor? (Maybe, the Emperor is no longer a Perpetual or as powerful) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Should the Emperor's soul-destroying spell have a permanent negative side effect on the Emperor? (Maybe, the Emperor is no longer a Perpetual or as powerful) Largely irrelevant if he can still be a battery for 10,000 years no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What is your estimate on how many novels for the Siege? You're quote-replying to me, which may be an error, but obviously I can't answer that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Can you hint bruh ? My prediction is there will be zero coverage of Sigismund shredding the traitors... coz reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I doubt it...Sigismund will be there, earning his reputation as the angel of death The realy mystery is how come Valdor isn't the greatest Traitor-slayer at the Siege Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I doubt it...Sigismund will be there, earning his reputation as the angel of death The realy mystery is how come Valdor isn't the greatest Traitor-slayer at the Siege I can see a short story where a Terran civilian from the Pe-kam Sub Levels called Del Boi is running a betting book on which hero is going to get the most smack down! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Can you hint bruh ? My prediction is there will be zero coverage of Sigismund shredding the traitors... coz reasons. What reasons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Should the Emperor's soul-destroying spell have a permanent negative side effect on the Emperor? (Maybe, the Emperor is no longer a Perpetual or as powerful) I doubt it but I’m sure the old lore said He cast all of His compassion out when He did it. I suspect that some of it will have gone into the Warp to make the Starchild or whatever they want to call it in new retcon lore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Should the Emperor's soul-destroying spell have a permanent negative side effect on the Emperor? (Maybe, the Emperor is no longer a Perpetual or as powerful) I doubt it but I’m sure the old lore said He cast all of His compassion out when He did it. I suspect that some of it will have gone into the Warp to make the Starchild or whatever they want to call it in new retcon lore. That'd actually be interesting, seeing how Guilliman's meeting with him as described in Dark Imperium turned out 10k years later. The Emperor being on some level diminished by his actions, not just by his near-death to Horus and enshrinement on the Golden Throne, could work nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Can you hint bruh ? My prediction is there will be zero coverage of Sigismund shredding the traitors... coz reasons. I can see this happening lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349670-hh-series-ending-soon-siege-will-be-another-series/page/7/#findComment-5153391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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