New Ork Vehicles - What do you think?

[antique_nova]

So, I just saw the new ork vehicles and I am severely disappointed, because it makes no sense.

 

I know there is orks make no sense, but then there is 40k makes no sense, makes no sense.

 

I linked the video with the image below:

 

 

My first question is where the hell did the Orks get the designs for a formula one car? Nothing in the imperial arsenal or any other species arsenal even closely resembles that ork formula 1 car and orks are not capable of creating such clean designs.

 

The design is also far too clean and aerodynamic for an ork vehicle. Ork designs are meant to be big, brutish and edgy (literally) and this formula 1 car is the exact opposite of that. Plus, where the hell are orks going to manufactor, let alone get the smooth tires necessary, especially when most battlefields are nowhere near smooth enough for that car to run and run fast at all, because they are not easy to create and Ork willpower only works on machines, not on the smoothness or production of tires.

 

There's a reason why every vehicle built for war has an elevated base and I can tell you now that that ork car wouldn't last 1 minute, before it gets thrown into the air like a rag doll. Especially with the wings at the front, because all the debris will just slow down or savagely stop that car.

 

In short, it doesn't look 40k at all and doesn't belong in the 40k universe and this is the first time I've ever felt the need to say that out of everything they've ever produced since I started in 5th edition.

[depthcharge12]

I think that squig co pilot is so damn cute.

[Sete]

I fell the same, but I don't play orks, so really does not bother me that much.

From a race that build a teleporter that could move moons, I can expect anything.

[Halandaar]

Is this news or a rumour?

[Sete]

Is this news or a rumour?

Yesn't

[Gederas]

I actually really like the new Ork buggies. They looks frigging awesome.

 

 

So, I just saw the new ork vehicles and I am severely disappointed, because it makes no sense.

 

I know there is orks make no sense, but then there is 40k makes no sense, makes no sense.

 

My first question is where the hell did the Orks get the designs for a formula one car? Nothing in the imperial arsenal or any other species arsenal even closely resembles that ork formula 1 car and orks are not capable of creating such clean designs.

 

The design is also far too clean and aerodynamic for an ork vehicle. Ork designs are meant to be big, brutish and edgy (literally) and this formula 1 car is the exact opposite of that. Plus, where the hell are orks going to manufactor, let alone get the smooth tires necessary, especially when most battlefields are nowhere near smooth enough for that car to run and run fast at all, because they are not easy to create and Ork willpower only works on machines, not on the smoothness or production of tires.

 

There's a reason why every vehicle built for war has an elevated base and I can tell you now that that ork car wouldn't last 1 minute, before it gets thrown into the air like a rag doll. Especially with the wings at the front, because all the debris will just slow down or savagely stop that car.

 

In short, it doesn't look 40k at all and doesn't belong in the 40k universe and this is the first time I've ever felt the need to say that out of everything they've ever produced since I started in 5th edition.

 

You're questioning design logic of a race that weaponized moons using teleporter technology?

 

And really, the box is called "Speed Freaks". Of all the orks, the Speed Freaks are the ones who seem to understand aerodynamics, as a lot of speed freak vehicles look marginally more aerodynamic than other orky vehicles.

 

Also the comment about the vehicle being too low: Have you ever seen Marine Bikes?

[DuskRaider]

I think they're zoggin cool and can't wait to see how much we can kustomize them.

[PeteySödes]

If enough believe there’s enough clearance they should be fine.

[Ishagu]

If an Ork believes that car can be driven on a Battlefield....

[Calyptra]

I think the new buggies are great. I'm a little uncertain about how low they are, but that's certainly not a deal breaker for me. Everything else is wonderful.

 

While the Orks excell at proactive recycling and improvisation, they do also fabricate their own, more considered designs. And a lot of it just has to do with the personalities of the relevant Meks.

 

Put differently, Orks possess the most advanced field technology in the galaxy. They are certainly capable of building clean designs if they want to.

 

Something that's been lost over the years is the distinct look of the different Clans. I think it's relevant here because Snakebites or Deathskulls vehicles are going to look a lot more scrap-built than Evil Sunz or Bad Moons.

[depthcharge12]

Do squigs put their head out the window when Speed Freaks are flying down the badlands?

[Lexington]

Orks are made up, and part of a universe that's an amalgam of modern pop sci-fi floatsam and clear analogues of fantasy races. "Why are they like things we have" isn't really the question to ask.

 

As to the design, Ork vehicles aren't all the same. The ones that are meant to go fast look like they should go fast. Been this way since always.

[Guest]

I can imagine Ork Meks making the fastest cars on places like that planet the Orks fight the Scars on. 

 

Dragsters, Hotrods etc... They are the Speed Freaks

 

I can't wait to see a diorama of a downed Eldar Grav tank and a Buggy using it as a ramp to crash into a WraithKnight or Lord

[Joe]

Wait, Ork's are fictional? I just assumed they were a tabletop representation of our Australian board members.

 

I've been holding off on collecting an ork army for a decade. These new models might just change that.

[DuskRaider]

Imagine being so helpless you can't even do a simple modification to raise the ride height of the vehicles.

[Gederas]

I've been holding off on collecting an ork army for a decade. These new models might just change that.

Same here!

 

I mean, well... Not the decade part :lol: I was interested in Orks from the get-go from when I started playing 40k, but never felt that they had enough decently sized vehicles that aren't expensive. (seriously. The buggy is 30 bucks and looks like a go-kart :lol:) This changes all of that.

[toaae]

I plan on raising them, as I also don't really like how low they are. But the aesthetic design I don't have a problem with, and there's more than enough orky gubbins on it to make it fit in with previous models. I think I would have preferred a proper "buggy", but these are sick models and I'll be getting multiple.

[antique_nova]

The Ork vehicles as I mentioned before are "too areodynamic" And you guy seem to miss the point about ork designs.

 

Ork designs are based on copying others. Other planes, other titans (bigger Orks basically) And so are their teleportation devices.

 

My question is where did they find the inspiration to build a formula 1 car? To make super smooth tires? No race I know has either of those things.

 

Plus, the front plow will hit a rock and send the car flying, because it hugs the ground too much

[01RTB01]

I think the new buggies are great. I'm a little uncertain about how low they are, but that's certainly not a deal breaker for me. Everything else is wonderful.

 

While the Orks excell at proactive recycling and improvisation, they do also fabricate their own, more considered designs. And a lot of it just has to do with the personalities of the relevant Meks.

 

Put differently, Orks possess the most advanced field technology in the galaxy. They are certainly capable of building clean designs if they want to.

 

Something that's been lost over the years is the distinct look of the different Clans. I think it's relevant here because Snakebites or Deathskulls vehicles are going to look a lot more scrap-built than Evil Sunz or Bad Moons.

Oh I don't know. I think my deathskullz vehicles will look suspiciously like other clan's stuff with some hefty repaint :D

 

As to the OP. Orks are at a stage whereby if they believe, it literally will work - don't forget the narrative whereby imperials tried using Ork guns and they simply didn't fire. Ork psyche is incredibly powerful.

 

Those buggies ain't crashing and the ground clearance is no issue :p

[Brother Casman]

I like 'em. If anyone is going to have an instinctive sense of aerodynamics, it would be the Speed Freeks. They'd probably be able to conceive of smooth tracks for the races, too. And if they crash in battle, well, that's always good for a laugh, right ladz? :D

[toaae]

Ork designs are based on copying others. Other planes, other titans (bigger Orks basically) And so are their teleportation devices.

 

They are not. Gargants were inspired by encounters with Imperium titans, but they are designed based on the Mek's personal interpretation of Gork and Mork. Other vehicles are up to the whims of the Mek building it. And their teleportation devices, much like most of their actual teknology, is hardcoded into their DNA, and is often more sophisticated than Imperium equivalents.

[Sawtooth]

I love them. I also find it hilarious that they mounted a shokk attack gun on the back to give speed boosts when it fires. Nothing about Ork vehicles needs to actually make sense to me and I like it that way :)

[FlamingDeth]

The Ork vehicles as I mentioned before are "too areodynamic" And you guy seem to miss the point about ork designs.

 

Ork designs are based on copying others. Other planes, other titans (bigger Orks basically) And so are their teleportation devices.

 

My question is where did they find the inspiration to build a formula 1 car? To make super smooth tires? No race I know has either of those things.

 

Plus, the front plow will hit a rock and send the car flying, because it hugs the ground too much

This is hilariously wrong. Orks don't copy the teleportation technology of others, they have the most sophisticated and advanced teleportation technology in the galaxy. As far as other tech, Ork technology has always been a combination of stuff hardcoded into their genes, copying things they like, and actual creativity. I kind of feel like all your ork background comes from memes.

[Magos Takatus]

Having Ork vehicles that resemble 20th century human vehicles is no more strange than Freebooters managing to resemble human pirates. A lot of pre-3rd edition Ork models has lots of curved surfaces and less random bits of metal nailed in place. The models themselves were crude but the designs did not look as primitive as current Ork weapons. Meks are highly individual and if they can successfully create aircraft and helicopters some must have enough understanding about aerodynamics to be able to make a more streamlined ground vehicle, no problem. The lack of ground clearance is annoying but I wouldn't consider it a deal breaker for me anyway.

[Eddie Orlock]

My question is where did they find the inspiration to build a formula 1 car?

I've heard this referred to a convergent design development. Essentially, given similar parameters and optimisation pressures it is not unlikely for very similar designs to arise totally independently.

 

 

So, to arrive at Ork formula style buggies all we need to do is infer that at some point some speed freaks had access to a sufficiently flat track for long enough that the meks attuned and tuned to it. Somewhere like a salt flat is naturally occurring geography. And, like Gargants, once the design gets in the racial memory, there it remains.

 

 

And if that's not rationalisation enough, I'll also point out that 'Speedstas' have a long pedigree from epic.