The inevitable Primaris Dante

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

16 hours ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

The wait for DA and BA seems to have paid off. If everything is like this, they'll retain a really strong visual identity and get some really outstanding models.

But the question is, will that remain for all BA unique units or just for characters?

 

so far primaris does seem to be killing the unique identity of standard unique units, with them just being standard squads with upgrade sprues.

 

like I am concerned primaris sanguinary guard will just be the new assault jump troops, but with an upgrade sprue of masks, and BA themed shoulder pads.

 

though maybe SG just get replaced by the HG they initially replaced…

Edited March 16, 2023 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

As for the actual model, my biggest gripe is that the pose and tactical pillar make him extremely difficult for me to transport.

he definitely won’t fit into my old GW carrying case, and transporting him the way I transport a lot of other models that don’t fit those slots has become cumbersome already. Then there’s the small PoC between his toes and the pillar that seems very likely to break fairly easily.

 

for collectors it’s great, for actual gamers it’s a hassle imho.

i hope sanguinor gets a pose more like the AoS sig-angel lady.

[WrathOfTheLion]

Black Templars have fully individual kits, both characters and unit kits. I would thus conclude BA and DA (and SW) will have real sculpts to go with their characters.

I would suspect that the full range for Dark Angels will be first for two reasons. The first being that Jonson is likely to come back. The second being that Dark Angels aren't functional as a Primaris force for the things that matter (Deathwing/Ravenwing), so they're important to get migrated over.

 

Dante I think is a sign of new Sanguinary Guard sometime in the nearer than later future.

[WrathOfTheLion]

From doing chaos models and other spindly things, I'd recommend a magnetic case. It's pretty easy to make one, and you can ensure it's the right dimensions. That's how I plan on transporting Dante.

 

Duncan has a video on making one, really easy to accomplish and doesn't require a high level of skill.

[Karhedron]

10 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

As for the actual model, my biggest gripe is that the pose and tactical pillar make him extremely difficult for me to transport.

he definitely won’t fit into my old GW carrying case, and transporting him the way I transport a lot of other models that don’t fit those slots has become cumbersome already. Then there’s the small PoC between his toes and the pillar that seems very likely to break fairly easily.

 

I know what you mean. The sword on my Yncarne has the same issue and came off so many times I ended up magnetising it rather than gluing it back for the umpteenth time. I wonder if the same solution would work well here.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

45 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

I know what you mean. The sword on my Yncarne has the same issue and came off so many times I ended up magnetising it rather than gluing it back for the umpteenth time. I wonder if the same solution would work well here.

That’s unfortunately not a solid solution. 
for a hobby that’s already very expensive now your investing in magnets and a small drill to ensure you can transport your toy without it breaking.

[Karhedron]

Powerful magnets can be had for pennies on eBay. They are great for weapon swaps too and the money saved by having one unit with swappable weapons as opposed to 2 models is more than the magnets will cost.

[Paladin777]

Magnets has done wonders for the durability of spindly bits on my aeldari. Lord knows they're far more fragile than almost all marine models! That said, that would have to be one badass magnet to support the whole model. 
 

however, I love the sculpt in general! I also can't wait to see his stat line!

[Majkhel]

I don't think he could actually break in the point between his foot and the tac-rock. Marine's feet are large enough to provide enough contact surface. And GW's pastic is not brittle like resin. If I were to magnetize that particular connection, I would actually be more worried about him spinning around unless I make some sort notch that would prevent that.
You could always cut him from the rock and then pin him there with a piece of a paperclip. Re-glue with plastic cement and it will be ROCK-hard   

Personally I plan on removing the rock altogether. Or at the very least - add more rubble to and create a proper elevation. It's one of the things that make the figures' movement hard to understand.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

7 hours ago, Majkhel said:

I don't think he could actually break in the point between his foot and the tac-rock. Marine's feet are large enough to provide enough contact surface. And GW's pastic is not brittle like resin. If I were to magnetize that particular connection, I would actually be more worried about him spinning around unless I make some sort notch that would prevent that.
You could always cut him from the rock and then pin him there with a piece of a paperclip. Re-glue with plastic cement and it will be ROCK-hard   

Personally I plan on removing the rock altogether. Or at the very least - add more rubble to and create a proper elevation. It's one of the things that make the figures' movement hard to understand.

Sure if his whole foot was on it, but it looks like it’s just tippy toes he has on the tactical command rock.

[Xenith]

The plastic join is decent and he won't break off unless you do stupid things with it or try to break it off - harlequins all have the same, and while smaller models, they also have smaller connection points and they're fine. Just think, the alternative would have been a flying stand...

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

8 hours ago, Xenith said:

The plastic join is decent and he won't break off unless you do stupid things with it or try to break it off - harlequins all have the same, and while smaller models, they also have smaller connection points and they're fine. Just think, the alternative would have been a flying stand...

Flying stands are 1000x preferable to more stupid pillars and rocks.

 

jump pack units shouldn’t have to have mini diorama bases.

[Blindhamster]

I like the base more than a flying stand personally, but you can use a flight stand if you prefer 

[Xenith]

3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Flying stands are 1000x preferable to more stupid pillars and rocks.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree, from everything I've seen, a large amount of people hate the primaris flying stands and go to great lengths of time and effort to remove and replace them with alternatives due to appearance or breakage. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, Xenith said:

 

We'll have to agree to disagree, from everything I've seen, a large amount of people hate the primaris flying stands and go to great lengths of time and effort to remove and replace them with alternatives due to appearance or breakage. 

The inceptor stands I hate as much as the tactical rock, but just a clear plastic stand is way better.

[Blindhamster]

1 hour ago, Xenith said:

 

We'll have to agree to disagree, from everything I've seen, a large amount of people hate the primaris flying stands and go to great lengths of time and effort to remove and replace them with alternatives due to appearance or breakage. 

Modern flying stands, not primaris flying stands. They’re used on modern hh jump infantry, they’re used in some AoS, they’re used for votaan 

[WrathOfTheLion]

Lord I hate those flight stands. I'm quite glad Dante doesn't have one.

[Rhavien]

I wonder, when we'll get a book describing what's happened and if he got some spirit from crossing the rubicon. I mean Mephiston is all "Whoah look at all this new godlike power!". 

[Marshal Reinhard]

Primaris flying stands are great on paper.

 

Then reality comes at you with a big *snap!*

Edited March 21, 2023 by Marshal Reinhard

[Majkhel]

Aaaah, the Big Snap theory reality  

[Jolemai]

Dante lore discussion can be found in a new thread

 

 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Does Dante crossing the rubicon indicate a new BA novel in the next 3-12 months?

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Does Dante crossing the rubicon indicate a new BA novel in the next 3-12 months?

 

They need the story somewhere, either in a novel or a campaign book. Seeing as Dante doesn't look like being part of Arks of Omen (unless he is sharing Book 5 with the Lion), I guess a novel seems more likely.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Just now, Karhedron said:

 

They need the story somewhere, either in a novel or a campaign book. Seeing as Dante doesn't look like being part of Arks of Omen (unless he is sharing Book 5 with the Lion), I guess a novel seems more likely.

Have any of the AoO books told the story of azreal’s crossing yet?

[WrathOfTheLion]

38 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Have any of the AoO books told the story of azreal’s crossing yet?

I know it's briefly covered in AoO Vashtorr. I haven't read it yet to have further details.