CaptainMarsh Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Tank formation teasers were posted on the Community page Not completely, they missed the particulars on the stratagems: 1cp, can fire turret twice no matter how far you moved 1cp, pick a unit. All keyword russes that charge give d3 mortal wounds on a 4+ Pick an enemy unit, or a unit as in a single Russ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 An enemy unit. With the boost to overwatch from you warlord, and that stratagem, it does seem like it wants you to take a few leman russes and attack the enemy with them. I don't know how effective that'll be though. To be honest, I'll take the formation just to use the relic. It lets my mars alpha vanquisher be cool again, instead of being a tax. I am liking the idea of plasma sponsons now. They are only 2pt more than bolters, and the techpriest is 12pts lower with free servo arm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I feel like they are making a mistake - I remember 7th and we can ill afford another Klendathu. Love the starship trooper reference!!! Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Tank and infantry formations seem good options to fill 1kpts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Got a little idea. Blade veterans in a chimera, ambushing with a platoon commander. They can get out for 1cp and be within 6" for shotguns or melta. Sure, it's 5cp to pull off but could be fun. Edit: Ah, forgot the commander can't disembark, so needs field command. 6cp, pretty steep for 3 meltaguns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phubar Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Where are the details about infantry "formation"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Where are the details about infantry "formation"? It is CC focused. Infantry Squads, Conscripts, Crusaders, Priests, Company and Platoon Commanders, Warlord trait Reroll 1 to hit in melee within 6" Relic Roll 2 dice and pick lowest for LD test, if bearer dies one unit within 6" get +1A and auto pass morale. Strategems Models slain from target unit can pile in and fight before being removed. Priest that make a charge move grant +1 charge roll within 12". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Cross Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I play punchy mech catachans and that infantry formation sounds like exactly what I want! haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Where are the details about infantry "formation"? It is CC focused. Infantry Squads, Conscripts, Crusaders, Priests, Company and Platoon Commanders, Warlord trait Reroll 1 to hit in melee within 6" Relic Roll 2 dice and pick lowest for LD test, if bearer dies one unit within 6" get +1A and auto pass morale. Strategems Models slain from target unit can pile in and fight before being removed. Priest that make a charge move grant +1 charge roll within 12". My Khornate guard (played as Catachans) finally have a home. Wooohoooo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diagramdude Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 What is the second stratagem for the scions drop detachment? In the screenshot of the precision drop one, there is definitely the outline of a second stratagems border. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Someone said it's a full bs overwatch from a valkyrie if the target unit is within 3 or 6" of it. What is the second stratagem for the scions drop detachment? In the screenshot of the precision drop one, there is definitely the outline of a second stratagems border. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 What is the second stratagem for the scions drop detachment? In the screenshot of the precision drop one, there is definitely the outline of a second stratagems border. Aerial Support, 1 CP- Tempestus Drop Force Infantry is charged and a Tempestus Drop Force Valkyrire is within 6', the Valkyrie may fire overwatch needing 4+. It is very similar to a strategem for the Emperor's Blade, except exchange the Valkyrie for a Taurox or Chimera. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5210872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H311fi5h Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Speaking of Ministorum Priests and Crusaders, are we going to keep using the datasheets in the AM codex, or are being replaced by new rules from the SoB Beta codex? The infantry formation sounds pretty awesome with a Catachan brigade w/ Straken, Priest, Crusaders and a ton of infantry squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris521 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Speaking of Ministorum Priests and Crusaders, are we going to keep using the datasheets in the AM codex, or are being replaced by new rules from the SoB Beta codex? The infantry formation sounds pretty awesome with a Catachan brigade w/ Straken, Priest, Crusaders and a ton of infantry squads. I guess that depends on the keywords. I don't have any screenshots of the beta codex so I don't know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level9red Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Is there any news on the sentinel one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Is there any news on the sentinel one? There isn't one. Sentinels all got hefty points drops though, which is nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level9red Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Is there any news on the sentinel one? There isn't one. Sentinels all got hefty points drops though, which is nice. The points drop is nice. But there is an infantry one listed, a tank one, an artillery one, the tempestus one and then the assault blade one? https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/03/3rd-dec-war-zone-vigilus-a-new-theatre-of-wargw-homepage-post-2/ I swear somewhere I'd seen it was for sentinels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I think one of the old 7th ed formations had sentinels in it, the tank one maybe? That is probably where the rumour comes from. The new ones are: Blade: Commanders (Comp/Plat), command squads, veterans, SWSs, Infantry, Chimeras, Taurox Wrath: Company Commanders, Master of Ordnance, Basilisks, Hydras, Wyverns Conclave: Commanders (Comp/Plat), command squads, Infantry, Conscripts, Priests, Crusaders Fist: Russes, Tank Commanders Drop: Tempestor Prime, command squads, Scions, Valks What sort of things are you doing with your sentinels? There is probably something new to try with them, due to the points decrease. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 We have those data sheets in our codex. I wouldn't expect to need to use the data sheets from a beta codex. Speaking of Ministorum Priests and Crusaders, are we going to keep using the datasheets in the AM codex, or are being replaced by new rules from the SoB Beta codex? The infantry formation sounds pretty awesome with a Catachan brigade w/ Straken, Priest, Crusaders and a ton of infantry squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Wouldn't be the first time GW had two identical units with different rules... Last time they said use what you want :ermm: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level9red Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I think one of the old 7th ed formations had sentinels in it, the tank one maybe? That is probably where the rumour comes from. The new ones are: Blade: Commanders (Comp/Plat), command squads, veterans, SWSs, Infantry, Chimeras, Taurox Wrath: Company Commanders, Master of Ordnance, Basilisks, Hydras, Wyverns Conclave: Commanders (Comp/Plat), command squads, Infantry, Conscripts, Priests, Crusaders Fist: Russes, Tank Commanders Drop: Tempestor Prime, command squads, Scions, Valks What sort of things are you doing with your sentinels? There is probably something new to try with them, due to the points decrease. Thank u for that, clears it up. Didn't realise there were two infantry ones. There was a sentinel one in 7th, but it may have been apocalypse, and one where they were attached to infantry platoons or something. Anyway, what I'm probably going to with are plasma canon ones, 2 full squads, with harker and 2 squads of vets with plasma and millisle launcher. I have lots of catachans to use, and I run Elysians, so I figure the above is a nice firebase that rerolls 1s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phubar Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 The infantry Blade one what flavour has? :D I mean, what is focused on? No need of specific Strats, WT or relic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 The infantry Blade one what flavour has? I mean, what is focused on? No need of specific Strats, WT or relic It's all about bonuses for dismounting from transports, and being near them if assaulted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Dear God Santa Emperor I want 2 Valkyries for Sanguinala. I really like the Scions Detach, already digging trough my pile of shame to sort them out. Need to convert plasma weapons tho. That monopose one is bloody annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickstick Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Dear God Santa Emperor I want 2 Valkyries for Sanguinala. I really like the Scions Detach, already digging trough my pile of shame to sort them out. Need to convert plasma weapons tho. That monopose one is bloody annoying. The set of 5 metal plasma guns that GW sells is great for this. You can use them with the scion kit with minimal trouble. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351930-the-hammer-on-vigilus/page/3/#findComment-5211805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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