Ishagu Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Plague War Imo it's one of the most fascinating books released this year, and not because it features the Ultras. I think people have really missed out if they haven't read it. It's certainly better than most on the list. LoS is indeed great, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagashnee Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Plague was a good book. Not the best book at anything. It loses to lords of silence for chaos. Charcharadons and spears for marines and titan death for BIG action. Plus the fact that it is at its core a ultramarine story that cements the presents editions view that ultramarines=best=future=imperium=guiliman in conjuction with the never ending bad taste for ultras much of the community still harbours from the ward era dent it mass apeal. Plus primaries also remain a turnoff for some. Good enough read tho imo. For me its 1) lords of silence LOVED this book. A perfect example of bl fiction done right. 2) slaves to darkness, a perfect example of the hh done right. 3) the outer dark, great book on a great chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I dare to say that we already got some favorites. StD, LoS and Outer Dark with others like Warhawk close behind. Just proofs to me that Wraight and French are among the top writers, imo. Rob seems to improve from year to year. At least with his sharks. Haven't read Blood of Iax for now but I guess it's more than enjoyable, as well. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Blood of Iax was nice but not nice enough for best book 2018. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Lords of Silence, Slaves to Darkness and The Magos for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaplessHeretic Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Slaves to Darkness was great, still want to pick up Titandeath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'm guessing lots of people skipped Plague War? I skipped it, surprisingly as I usually enjoy Guy Haley. I just didn’t enjoy the first instalment in this series at all and haven’t had any desire to get the second. I probably will at some stage or just do an audio version if I feel the need to catch up. Lords of silence is bought but remains unread as yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Does Anarch and Spears of the Emperor really belong on this list? Those haven't hit general release yet. Second this... Rules for this should be "general release"... Damn you BL LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2018 had a new Eisenhorn AND a new Cain book! What a time to be alive... I’ve been catching up on a few older books I’d missed this year so didn’t read a lot of new ones. Enjoyed Titandeath and found some of Plague War VERY interesting. But the book I couldn’t put down was probably The Magos (might have helped that it was my holiday read around the pool...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2018 had a new Eisenhorn AND a new Cain book! What a time to be alive... I’ve been catching up on a few older books I’d missed this year so didn’t read a lot of new ones. Enjoyed Titandeath and found some of Plague War VERY interesting. But the book I couldn’t put down was probably The Magos (might have helped that it was my holiday read around the pool...) If there’s a vote for the biggest let down of the year it was the Eisenhorn book. I was mightily disappointed by that one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5228939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I'm guessing lots of people skipped Plague War?I skipped it, surprisingly as I usually enjoy Guy Haley. I just didn’t enjoy the first instalment in this series at all and haven’t had any desire to get the second. I probably will at some stage or just do an audio version if I feel the need to catch up.Lords of silence is bought but remains unread as yet. You might like the second, it's pretty different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2018 had a new Eisenhorn AND a new Cain book! What a time to be alive... I’ve been catching up on a few older books I’d missed this year so didn’t read a lot of new ones. Enjoyed Titandeath and found some of Plague War VERY interesting. But the book I couldn’t put down was probably The Magos (might have helped that it was my holiday read around the pool...) If there’s a vote for the biggest let down of the year it was the Eisenhorn book. I was mightily disappointed by that one. Yeah, definitely split opinions that one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 Does Anarch and Spears of the Emperor really belong on this list? Those haven't hit general release yet. Yes, they belong to the 2018 list. The requirement is that BL released them, and certainly in the case of Spear of the Emperor, it's been up for general sale, I see no reason to exclude that book * at all*. As for Anarch, it is why I mentioned that for those who bought and read it after BL made it available in 2018, they can list it. Of course, both of these books will be on the list again this year ,which means that ADB might have two books on the list this year which will be a rarity for him ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Yeah, I disagree on that, especially concerning limited editions. It's not as bad anymore like it used to be, where we'd wait 2 years minimum for a general release, but 6 months put Spear of the Emperor firmly into 2019. The only thing that's going on general release next week is the german/french editions that went straight to hardback. The limited edition is available to buy on neither BL nor GW, as far as I can find. As for Anarch, it's officially releasing on the 19th in ebook, hardback, and audiobook. It's a January release and has been listed as such for many moons now. If we just move things around willy-nilly because somebody might have gotten an event pre-release (or review copy, if it was a different publisher), we might as well start including paperback editions in follow-up years as well, with how we're basically succumbing to warp-time. Heck, we might list Cadian Honour and Scourge of Fate as 2018 releases by virtue of them being holiday ePremieres, the same way Pharos was years ago, or the Khârn: Eater of Worlds novel. It's needlessly confusing and basically means books get two shots at being a best of year 20xx shoutout. It's great for folks who enjoyed their books early, but event pre-releases and exclusive, expensive limited editions 6-12 months prior to general availability should not overshadow general releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 -snip- I absolutely agree with the principle of your point, but I don't think the thread is going for any kind of meaningful objectivity. Without requiring people to read all the releases before voting, its about as useful as the Oscars as far as any kind of real metric goes. I'd imagine the point is just to spread a bit of positivity and give people a chance to talk a bit about what they liked this year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Oh, for sure, and I don't generally have an issue with that (people have been naming the books already anyway). Though I do admit I chuckled a little on your last line, seeing how Spear of the Emperor's own thread in particular is on page 40 now! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yeah, I disagree on that, especially concerning limited editions. It's not as bad anymore like it used to be, where we'd wait 2 years minimum for a general release, but 6 months put Spear of the Emperor firmly into 2019. The only thing that's going on general release next week is the german/french editions that went straight to hardback. The limited edition is available to buy on neither BL nor GW, as far as I can find. As for Anarch, it's officially releasing on the 19th in ebook, hardback, and audiobook. It's a January release and has been listed as such for many moons now. If we just move things around willy-nilly because somebody might have gotten an event pre-release (or review copy, if it was a different publisher), we might as well start including paperback editions in follow-up years as well, with how we're basically succumbing to warp-time. Yeah, we disagree on this. Fortunately I made the thread so I've decided what is applicable I think your point on Spear of the Emperor especially has zero validity. The book was up for release, people could ( and have) bought it, and it would be absurd to then prevent them from voting on the book because Dark Chaplain didn't want to buy it when it was for sale. Anarch is a general 2019 release , and will be up again for voting this year., but is is also a 2018 pre-release by BL ( it's not as if people pirated copies of Anarch or got ARC's, they paid full price for it, myself included). As BL decided to put hundreds of copies up for sale at the BL Weekender it is only fair to tell those who read it that they can vote for it as a 2018 book. I have likewise included Sons of the Emperor on the list as I know a lot of people have read that book, even though it was only for sale at several different events this year. P.S. let's not derail the thread with a discussion of why you think limited editions shouldn't be included, it's tiresome and not the point of this thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yeah I'm with DarkChaplain there. Including all pre-releases and re-releases kinda defeats the purpose of such a thread and lowers the quality of such a 'ranking' in my eyes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I'm with DC, as well. The more input via brothers, who actually read a novel, the more valuable the outcome of such a thread is in the end. That being said, including LES or Pre-Releases, which only affect about 15% of the community, is kind-of counterproductive. I'd only include the general (or regular) hardback/paperback releases. Imagine an LE, which was released in week number 50. The lucky ones receiving it in week 51. Would that be a fair competitor to a book, which was released in week bumer 4? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Let’s plough on. As Taliesin says he started the thread so let’s play by his rules. If you want different rules, jump in next year and start the thread with your own rules. Both sides have valid points. Ignore the books you think shouldn’t be in it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 No need to do it next year. Nothing stopping you from opening a thread right now. However I'm not overly concerned. Just stating my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 It would be a little rude I think to open a new thread. Let’s go with this one for now. I do enjoy the responses to this thread as I haven’t read everything released and probably will buy some of the recommendations, so give us your lists folks (and we will agree to disagree over a few months here or there) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5229886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Lords of Silence was mine but I'm sure it would've been Spears if I was able to get it. I paid no attention to Slaves to Darkness but thanks to the recommendations in the thread I'm gonna check it out, thanks Frater. Honorable mention to Warhawk as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5230350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I would suggest Wanted: Dead, it's such a lovely delve into the Underhive, witty and fun and dark and lots of great world building, and great for its representation. Only a novella but still a book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5230847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I would suggest Wanted: Dead, it's such a lovely delve into the Underhive, witty and fun and dark and lots of great world building, and great for its representation. Only a novella but still a book. I really didn’t enjoy that one but good call on including one of the novellas. The series was a great development for the BL range in 2018. Mentioning my favourite one would get me a scolding from bolter and chainsword but suffice to say Nick Horth is brilliant! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352860-best-black-library-book-of-2018/page/2/#findComment-5230894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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