Wassa Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Hi all, I'm a bit confused about how to bring an Assassin now. We're allowed to bring them in a Vanguard Detachment without a HQ, does that still mean we need to bring 3 or we have to pay -1CP for the Auxiliary detachment? Also is there a way to bring an Inquisitor HQ without using the Auxiliary detachment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 If you take an assassin vanguard you don't need the HQ but still need the three elites. If you want a single inquisitor and nothing else from the inquisition list, an auxiliary detachment is the only way to do it (I mean you could do supreme command or vanguard but they require more than one unit). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5249595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 gone through in detail in this thread: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352798-officio-assassinorum-how-do-you-include-in-an-army/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5249604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5249607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 Is there no way to have a battleforged Astra Telepathica (sisters of silence) detachment? Other than take the -1 per unit? Edit: oh wait nevermind I see battlescribe as allows a HQless Null Maiden vanguard detachment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5251283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocletian Coros Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Is there no way to have a battleforged Astra Telepathica (sisters of silence) detachment? Other than take the -1 per unit? Edit: oh wait nevermind I see battlescribe as allows a HQless Null Maiden vanguard detachment I'm pretty sure the primaris psyker from the AM list has the Astra Telepathica keyword and can therefore be the HQ choice for a sisters detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5251565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I'm pretty sure the primaris psyker from the AM list has the Astra Telepathica keyword and can therefore be the HQ choice for a sisters detachment. Yes you are correct... interesting so you could make a legit detachment with them? Fluff wise that seems odd though... a psyker leading a bunch of pschic null anti psykers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5251621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 It is odd, but in the whole of 40k it's about par for the course and advantageous, so make the most out of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5251642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 Well that might be quite useful then thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5251679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I do an assassin detachment sometimes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5251682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocletian Coros Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I'm pretty sure the primaris psyker from the AM list has the Astra Telepathica keyword and can therefore be the HQ choice for a sisters detachment. Yes you are correct... interesting so you could make a legit detachment with them? Fluff wise that seems odd though... a psyker leading a bunch of pschic null anti psykers... Yeah. I don't like it either. I was thinking of making the Primaris Psyker a Null Maiden and think of his powers more like the manifestations of a powerful pariah. But thats more a stretch... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5252526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 GW said in an interview today between streamed games that assassins will be getting some nice stratagems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5252802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Wahay! Any other hints for the release next month? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5252933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 That’s all I got for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5253249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsondave Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Here they are. NASTY. Assassins are viable now. Fingers crossed for some WD Inquisition rules. https://imgur.com/a/kgH6ycq Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5258537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 My Vindicare weeps with joy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5258555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Pairs of vindicares are brutal now! Very good. Going to have to run all 4 together at some point as well for ultimate distraction carnifexs. D2 phase swords are brutal, eversor is now even more of a blender and cullexus is as good as always (which also ignores FNP, disgusting resilient, etc with only Invun saves that can be taken) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5258722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterstrider Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Assassins are now going to be an auto-include in a Custodes list. For 1CP and 85 reinforcement points, the ability to add one of four dudes to sure up a weakness is invaluable. And you don't have to declare your using it until the end of the deployment phase. So the mind game of which one you might bring will make deployment a nightmare for your opponents. Current list: Battalion +5CP Shield Captain on Bike w/ misericordia (Auric Aquilas) Shield Captain on Bike w/ misericordia (Eagle's Eye -1CP) 3 x 3 Custodian Guard w/ Sword/Shield x 2, Guardian Spear x 1 Vanguard +1CP Trajann 5 x Allarus Custodians w/ Axes, 4 x misericordia 6 x Wardens w/ Axes, 5 x misericorida (Deep Strike -1CP) Vexila w/ Axe and Magnifica Reinforcement pts: 85 (used for Assassin of choice -1CP) Battle-Forged +3CP CP: 9 -1 (relic) -1 (teleport) -1 (Assassin) = 6CP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5258935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 cullexus is as good as always (which also ignores FNP, disgusting resilient, etc with only Invun saves that can be taken) I didn't even notice the slight change of wording in that there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5258948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I will just take Culexus and Vindicare for my Custodes. They are a huge factor - thank you GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5259073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 cullexus is as good as always (which also ignores FNP, disgusting resilient, etc with only Invun saves that can be taken) I didn't even notice the slight change of wording in that there! Wait, that is what that means? I couldn't figure out what the point of the different wording was. Didn't realise those are alao considered saving throws in the traditional sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5259111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Do the new assassins cost 85pts? They can be taken alone without detachment it seems Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5259145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Do the new assassins cost 85pts? They can be taken alone without detachment it seems yep all are 85 points... which if you spend on reinforcement points during list building you can then at the start of the game spend 1 CP to bring the assassin of your choice to the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5259150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Rev up those culexus then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5259151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 cullexus is as good as always (which also ignores FNP, disgusting resilient, etc with only Invun saves that can be taken) I didn't even notice the slight change of wording in that there! Wait, that is what that means? I couldn't figure out what the point of the different wording was. Didn't realise those are alao considered saving throws in the traditional sense. He used to ignore armour. Now the only save that can be taken is an invulnerable saves. But you do make a good point, do FNP and disgusting resilient, etc count as saves or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/353651-bringing-assassinsinquisitiors-in-a-detachment/#findComment-5259408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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