Panzer Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 So I haven't seen anybody here talking about it and only a few in the NRA threads, but in the Abaddon reveal article there's some artwork showing Blood Angels. Considering that Vigilus is on our side of the rift and we having a history with the Black Legion we've been mysteriously absent from the action so far. Now that Abaddon reveals himself and the Black Legion arrive in big numbers it's possible we see some Blood Angels arrive as well. I don't think Vigilus needs any more chapters as there already are tons of Marines among other factions, but would be nice if we'd get a specialist detachment as well. What do you think?Also anybody else thinks the surroundings resemble the artwork in our Codex quite a bit? Potentially belonging to the same scene? (could only find this huge version via google ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I think the FB page said that the final Vigilus book would be all about Chaos so I am guessing there won't be anything for us in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 I think the FB page said that the final Vigilus book would be all about Chaos so I am guessing there won't be anything for us in there. All about chaos doesn't necessarily mean there won't be anything for their enemies. Just that the narrative is all about them now that they arrived. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Worth noting that this artwork is from the 2017 Codex and thus isn't new/necessarily related to the Vigilus narrative at all. That being said, I hope the Blood Angels rock up - this would have been the perfect moment for a new Dante model tbh. Realistically I don't think the BA will play much of a role at all, this will be Calgar & Abaddon's show. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Hasn't it been "promised" that Vigilus will belong to Abbadon? In that case whatever loyalist forces are present on Vigilus will fail. Although Blood Angels are no strangers to Noble sacrifices, I sure hope it will not be for naught. My assumption would be no Dante and definitely no CC Primaris. Rather some general Marines detachment or two, hopefully of a kind that we will be able to use as well. Probably as mentioned above: Calgar&Abbadon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshadow Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I think that artwork is from an old chaos space marine codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 It is? Damn and here I'm getting a little bit excited. Curse you GW for including old artworks that look suspiciously similar to new artwork in your articles! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread05 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Yea when I saw that artwork I thought hey cool, BA will make it to Vigilus, maybe its our turn to get a new Dante, but then I found out in reddit that thats just artwork from the chaos space marines codex 2017. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5270803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Probably for the best, would be nice not to be the punching bag chapter that gets decimated again. Would rather wait for a story where we can be front and centre instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The artwork isn't really an issue for me, they reuse art all the time throughout books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Probably for the best, would be nice not to be the punching bag chapter that gets decimated again. Would rather wait for a story where we can be front and centre instead. While I don't mind the punching bag side of it, I would prefer our own campaign with a proper focus as opposed to swooping in last minute to get slapped by Abaddon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 The artwork isn't really an issue for me, they reuse art all the time throughout books. Nobody was having an issue with that. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Probably for the best, would be nice not to be the punching bag chapter that gets decimated again. Would rather wait for a story where we can be front and centre instead. While I don't mind the punching bag side of it, I would prefer our own campaign with a proper focus as opposed to swooping in last minute to get slapped by Abaddon. The new rumour going around on youtube and twitter is that dante will be used as the punch bag for Abaddon because they can't have him fight Calgar or guilliman due to new models. Likely with dante getting killed, or almost killed so that he has to go through the Rubicon. Honestly I'm actually not okay with that as it will be an incredibly flat note to the end of dantes story from the guy Haley novels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Give that old man a break. He already almost died not too long ago against a Swarmlord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread05 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Honestly I'd take that lame excuse for a new Dante model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Probably for the best, would be nice not to be the punching bag chapter that gets decimated again. Would rather wait for a story where we can be front and centre instead. While I don't mind the punching bag side of it, I would prefer our own campaign with a proper focus as opposed to swooping in last minute to get slapped by Abaddon. The new rumour going around on youtube and twitter is that dante will be used as the punch bag for Abaddon because they can't have him fight Calgar or guilliman due to new models. Likely with dante getting killed, or almost killed so that he has to go through the Rubicon. Honestly I'm actually not okay with that as it will be an incredibly flat note to the end of dantes story from the guy Haley novels. Sound like knee-jerk wishlisting more than anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The artwork isn't really an issue for me, they reuse art all the time throughout books. Nobody was having an issue with that. ^^ What I meant to say was, it could be a reused artwork piece in the next book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 it is very unlikely that BA will be on Vigilus. When the first book was announced and on the seminar peaople asked them why the first book set in Imperium Nihilus does not include freaking Regent of freaking Imperium Nihilus they made some dismissive remarks that it's just a meaningless title. And Baal seems so far away, that it would be weird, frankly speaking, for BA to turn up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I mean I dont personally care to be apart of Vigilus. Way more stuff going on around the galaxy for BA to be apart of. I would prefer our own campaign book like Angel's Blade. Now, if they want to bring a couple successors into the fold and give them some shiny rules I'm totally down for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Sorry about the double post lads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5271973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerninja Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I remember reading on spikeybits in one of their rumor articles that the next campaign book after the two on Vigilus would be a Blood Angels one against Khorne. But after listening to voxcast (GW pod) and the guys one there saying they always looked to have contrast in both colors and styles when releasing new stuff, makes me doubt of a campaign and a new box with BA vs Khorne. Its red vs red, melee vs melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5272070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 blood angels vs necrons would probably be logical, there are a LOT of tomb worlds on that side of the rift iirc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5272106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just spotted an interesting idea if you take a Phobos Captain as your Warlord with this Trait. Have him accompany a nice big unit of Hellblasters with SoS and you have a unit that can: 1) Overcharge and never kill themselves. 2) Hit with 97% accuracy thanks to +1 to Hit and rerolling 1s. 3) 5+++ and can shoot again on a 4+ if they die. That's a lot of very reliable firepower although it does mean giving up Captain Smash. Screen them with some Scouts (or some of those fancy new Infiltrators) and you will have a unit that your opponent will not want to leave alive but will struggle to shut down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5272135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caine 24th Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I think we'll have a company or two show up, as in most campaign books. And, I think there are some neat rules & tactics coming with it. It makes me wonder on just how diverse primaris will be. Is there going to be a whole line of intercessor, phobos, inceptor, etc. armors? What if some chapters really come to use one type over another? At the moment GW seems to be going towards new units being available for all space marines (except maybe centurions and Calgar's crew). And, I'm happy to see that, but the lore seems very open and wild frontier at the moment. I've got that nagging feeling Vigilius is just the beginning of a totally revamped army. As to Dante, if he dies they'd better make it epic... like he's personally holding the gate deep under terra alongside the custodes while they buy time to save the emperor kind of epic. Anyway, Jes Goodwin's comments about primaris designs being 5 years ago is great news for the continuing development and frequency of new units to come. Fingers crossed for BA, if not now, soon. Though, I think we'll see some new chapters before the big founding chapters get their turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5272189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lash144 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just spotted an interesting idea if you take a Phobos Captain as your Warlord with this Trait. Have him accompany a nice big unit of Hellblasters with SoS and you have a unit that can: 1) Overcharge and never kill themselves. 2) Hit with 97% accuracy thanks to +1 to Hit and rerolling 1s. 3) 5+++ and can shoot again on a 4+ if they die. That's a lot of very reliable firepower although it does mean giving up Captain Smash. Screen them with some Scouts (or some of those fancy new Infiltrators) and you will have a unit that your opponent will not want to leave alive but will struggle to shut down. Unless you encounter some negativ modifiers of course ;-) Don't get me wrong it's a pretty good WLT and I'm also brainstorming ideas to exploit it. Hellblasters just die before you get them into RF range I'm afraid.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354336-blood-angels-and-vigilus-2/#findComment-5272266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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