dice4thedicegod Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Yes, it’s a nod to Seth. And a moan about the prevalence of smurfs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5276504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayniac Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Some of the suggestions here are pure awesome. I love the idea of the Black Legion actually conquering and establishing strongholds in Imperium Nihilus rather than just pop out of the Warp to raid and then leave again. I love the idea of Nihilus becoming more religious and Imperium Sanctus becoming closer to the Imperial Truth. I just don't think GW has it in them to do that. They seem to want to hype up the fact that the Primaris are the saviors of the Imperium against all odds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5278731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsWithLegs Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I think that this is leading into a plot line where chaos is going around corrupting the blackstone on planets and force them to become demon worlds to either expand the great rift, disrupt travel, or make strongholds. That's where the short stories they released seemed to be pointing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5278798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Not just Blackstone but cardinal world's aswell. The Emperor does indeed protect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5278807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Blood Angels - There seems to be quite a lot of Blood Angels Vs Black Legion art around recently. Some more just posted on the community Instagram. May not be brand new, and obviously the colours just work better than Wolves or Dangels, but it still makes me think the angels are coming... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5279752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 But this is the final book is it not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5279759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Terra Falls is next. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5279786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I really think well be getting Armageddon soon.....Im still holding out hope for the long ago rumored plastic steellegion ish set fighting....i forgot who haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5279799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 the hottest summer on armegeddon ever recorded! Hell is literally here! but wait whats that giant Green moon that suddenly appeared in the sky. NExt time on Armegeddon: imperium broken, scattered, da boss and the world eater have a fight that hasnt been seen since the emperor killed the beast on ullanor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5279809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 New Vigilus fluff here, courtesy of @Dragonglave on the News thread. Vigilus doesn't fall, but the Imperium doesn't win either. Calgar is sent to the ER by Abaddon but the Eldar manage to cripple the Vengeful Spirit and force it to run away. I think the new fluff sounds OK, but I can't help but (admittedly with hindsight) wish that GW had switched their release schedule around a bit. I appreciate these things are determined years in advance, but it seems (to me) that it would have made more sense to have the CSM range refresh with Fall of Cadia. That way, Chaos and Abaddon's big triumph (cutting the Imperium in half) would come with their new models. Vigilus could then have introduced the resurrected Guilliman and been the Imperium's big counterattack, halting (but not defeating) the post-Rift Chaos rampage and establishing the new status quo. As it is, whilst I think objectively Chaos has been well-served by the new post-Rift fluff ("We have already won" etc), I feel a bit unsatisfied in that what should be Chaos's big triumph feels like another "do-nothing" story. I also really don't like this bit:- Just as Abaddon is about to finish him, Haarken gets word that the Vengeful Spirit is in trouble, and Abaddon falls back, which really pisses off his very thirsty sword. This was lazy when Tolkien did it and its lazy now. Also pretty sure that killing Calgar is worth more than saving the Spirit, since the Black Legion also have another Gloriana, hundreds of other battleships, and Planet Killer. He also has a gun to Just Shoot Him. It is however nice to see the Eldar doing something other than attempting to warn the Imperium of impending doom, failing, and being killed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 So it's another stalemate lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Another 3min to midnight scenario well played GW well played. Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yet another one, and there goes another few pieces of Calgar spread in yet another scenario. On serious tone: did anyone expected another outcome? It's GeeDubs that we're talking about Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I mean, I think hitting his flagship with nukes is pretty awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsWithLegs Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 While I am a bit disappointed by the stalemate at the end, some of the details sound cool. I'd talk more about my thoughts in detail, but I don't know how to do the spoiler thing on here so I won't. That being said, I'd like to point out what Isinfier said over on the CSM refresh thread: Just been told that Vigilus is, in fact, not a two-part series; it's three. Third part to drop in November, focusing on Sisters leading some sort of crusade to counter Chaos and the Necrons arriving in force to protect the blackstone on the planet. The Necrons part would fit with my theory that the chaos plan is to use something (possibly Haarken Worldclaimer's spear thing) to re-attune the blackstone on the planet to amplify chaos and possibly pull the planet into the warp, permanently closing the gap in the rift. The Necron's ancient attempts to close off realspace from the warp would give them good incentive to stop this, and could be another range refresh on the way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yet another one, and there goes another few pieces of Calgar spread in yet another scenario. On serious tone: did anyone expected another outcome? It's GeeDubs that we're talking about I was expecting someone else to die to save the blue boy.Like i said in other thread moving on to better warzones now. Like Armageddon, with a new prime Ghaz, primaris BT, Angry Ron and new berzerkers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yet another one, and there goes another few pieces of Calgar spread in yet another scenario. On serious tone: did anyone expected another outcome? It's GeeDubs that we're talking about I was expecting someone else to die to save the blue boy.Like i said in other thread moving on to better warzones now. Like Armageddon, with a new prime Ghaz, primaris BT, Angry Ron and new berzerkers Erase the primaris BT and I'm in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 Oh my friend, there is no turning back now unfortunately... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yet another one, and there goes another few pieces of Calgar spread in yet another scenario. On serious tone: did anyone expected another outcome? It's GeeDubs that we're talking about I was expecting someone else to die to save the blue boy.Like i said in other thread moving on to better warzones now. Like Armageddon, with a new prime Ghaz, primaris BT, Angry Ron and new berzerkers Someone was sacrificed to save lil' boy blue, which was just what I expected, but it was the Vengeful Spirit which, I'll admit, I didn't see coming. The Spirit might as well be a living character at this point. It wasn't a deathblow but close enough to achieve the required outcome. A more inventive way of using the plot device but unfortunately it's a weak/overused device, to begin with, so that doesn't help much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 "I JUST GOT THOSE NEW ARMS AND LEGS ABBY...SERIOUSLY" - Calgar, after being dismembered by abbadon, who just remember he hadn't paid for 3 books worth of parking for the spirit and needed to get back before it gets clamped by eldar traffic police, Spirit Bone Clamps are a pain! Serious though. One thing to mention...so does Vigilus not fall and Harken's boast immediately made impotent? Not exactly thrilled. Would of been good to have him be right and then in the future have him do it again but now with impetus that it did come to happen in the past with big stakes at hand. Also...why was Harken the one telling Abby his ride was about to get clamped? Thought he was supposed to be planet side do raptor things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I'm also not sure why, if the Imperial fleet is all but shredded, and likely took even more damage to what remained in order to pull off the kamikaze run, why the Black Legion fleet had to retreat en mass to cover the Vengeful Spirit. How can the fleet be so large and imposing (even without the Spirit) and with a decisive victory behind it, and yet a blockade flotilla can't remain? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 While I am a bit disappointed by the stalemate at the end, some of the details sound cool. I'd talk more about my thoughts in detail, but I don't know how to do the spoiler thing on here so I won't. That being said, I'd like to point out what Isinfier said over on the CSM refresh thread: Just been told that Vigilus is, in fact, not a two-part series; it's three. Third part to drop in November, focusing on Sisters leading some sort of crusade to counter Chaos and the Necrons arriving in force to protect the blackstone on the planet. The Necrons part would fit with my theory that the chaos plan is to use something (possibly Haarken Worldclaimer's spear thing) to re-attune the blackstone on the planet to amplify chaos and possibly pull the planet into the warp, permanently closing the gap in the rift. The Necron's ancient attempts to close off realspace from the warp would give them good incentive to stop this, and could be another range refresh on the way Is this even real? Like I thought we were told it was only 2 books... Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I suspect that it might be a case that it is two books for this chapter in the story of Vigilus, then they'll move to other warzones for other releases, and at some point, they'll return to conclude the story. Not expressly a part three but a new story arc that picks the story back up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Have to say I'd be pretty keen for the Sisters and the Eldar to team up to smash the Black Legion and reclaim Vigilus in Book III. I feel that after Sanctuary 101, the Grey Knight incident, being eaten by the Sons of Malice, a whole convent-world being defeated by a Helbrute, Orar's Sepulchre, Iyanden, endless Avatar deaths...they really are due a big win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 So it's another stalemate lol. After all these new models, could it have been anything else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354372-vigilus-falls-what-nexthere-be-spoilers/page/5/#findComment-5283688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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