holydiver Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hey y'all, first time posting in this part of B+C. Getting into Kill Team with my lovely wife. She likes Necrons and I'm looking at their list and boy are they hard up for options. Makes me wonder how the R+D process went, like since Deathmarks are the only unit that has a price ending in 5 you have to take two of them or you'll end up with unspent points. I know they're soulless and all, but it seems like Necrons could really use some upgrade options just to help use up extra points. Couldn't find the following anywhere, so I went and did a little algebra. I think this is all possible 100-point combinations, but please feel free to check my math. I found 15. Here is the equation: 10a+12b+15c+16d=100 (you can figure out what the variables mean) And here's the list in an order that seemed to make sense to me: Combinations of 1: 10 Flayed Ones Combinations of Flayed Ones and 1 other: 4 Flayed Ones, 5 Warriors 7 Flayed Ones, 2 Deathmarks 4 Flayed Ones, 4 Deathmarks 1 Flayed One, 6 Deathmarks 2 Flayed Ones, 5 Immortals Combinations of Warriors and Immortals: 7 Warriors, 1 Immortal 3 Warriors, 4 Immortals Combinations of 3: 6 Flayed Ones, 2 Warriors, 1 Immortal 4 Flayed Ones, 1 Warrior, 3 Immortals 2 Flayed Ones, 4 Warriors, 2 Immortals 1 Flayed One, 5 Warriors, 2 Deathmarks 2 Warriors, 4 Deathmarks, 1 Immortal Combinations of 4: 3 Flayed Ones, 2 Warriors, 2 Deathmarks, 1 Immortal 1 Flayed One, 1 Warrior, 2 Deathmarks, 3 Immortals Incidentally, those are arranged secondarily from highest model count to lowest. Examining them this way gives us the following distribution, which basically conforms to a normal distribution or bell curve: 1 10-model team 3 9-model teams 6 8-model teams 5 7-model teams With a mean kill team size of 8 models, I think this puts Necrons somewhere in the middle of factions by model count, which surprised me since I thought of them as more of an elite force. I haven't looked at all the factions to confirm this though. Having done all that I couldn't resist picking the ones that seemed most viable to me, with a few comments: 10 Flayed Ones (the inevitable all-Flayed One list. Sounds fun to me, but she thinks they look yucky.) 6 Flayed Ones, 2 Warriors, 1 Immortal (this is my pick for a "horde" list) 4 Flayed Ones, 5 Warriors (runner-up for a possible horde list) 3 Flayed Ones, 2 Warriors, 2 Deathmarks, 1 Immortal (best way to use all unit types. # of each proportionate to cost.) 7 Warriors, 1 Immortal (standard leader and mob option) 3 Warriors, 4 Immortals (I feel like this is the sweet spot for elite-ish lists. Sub in a Deathmark or two without feeling bad.) 2 Flayed Ones, 5 Immortals (elite runner-up. Think of the Flayed Ones as upgrades for the Immortals.) Okey dokey, that was fun. Comments please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydiver Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Also, to be able to field all possible combinations you would need to build: 10 Flayed Ones 7 Warriors 6 Deathmarks 10 Immortals (5 of each type) That's 33 total models, or: 3 Immortals boxes (buy an extra body from a bitz shop) 1 Warriors box (or all 6 of the old metal sculpts plus one extra if you're my wife) 2 Flayed Ones boxes (any examples of less gruesome conversions?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5275277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Warrior box, plasiticard and greenstuff. Pretty much the only way to make a good one. You'll get an entire squad of 12 if you want, or 10 and a pair of immortal conversions (guides can be found online). That said, my deathmark squad was rather model-heavy (4 or 5, an immortal or two, a warrior, and another warrior who shot better than some deathmarks due to amazing rolls). Thanks for mathing this out! It may come in handy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5275297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilyth Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 Flayed Ones boxes (any examples of less gruesome conversions?) You could grab a box of Infantry models from other factions (e.g. cadians) and mix in arms and legs from the flayed ones - then paint them up like they use some sort of holographic camoflague which is failing where the flayed one parts are visible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5276079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tordeck Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 To fit within the 20 model max for a roster it might be prudent to only build 4 Flayed Ones 4 Warriors 4 Deathmarks 8 Immortals (4 of each type) That would still allow you to run any of Combinations of Flayed Ones and 1 other: 4 Flayed Ones, 4 Deathmarks Combinations of Warriors and Immortals: 3 Warriors, 4 Immortals Combinations of 3: 4 Flayed Ones, 1 Warrior, 3 Immortals 2 Flayed Ones, 4 Warriors, 2 Immortals 2 Warriors, 4 Deathmarks, 1 Immortal Combinations of 4: 3 Flayed Ones, 2 Warriors, 2 Deathmarks, 1 Immortal 1 Flayed One, 1 Warrior, 2 Deathmarks, 3 Immortals Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5276090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydiver Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 I like that! You could also field the 2 Flayed Ones, 5 Immortals list as long as you were ok mixing Immortals. That's 8 of 15 possible combinations with 20 models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5276431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 While I understand the appeal of using all of your 100 points, unless you REALLY need that last point, aiming for 99 points may do more for you competitively as some missions tie-break based on least points. Since the vast majority of players will likely use the full 100 points, there are many lists where you’re not really handicapping yourself to take slightly less. Just something to think about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5286321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tordeck Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I've yet to play as or against Crons but in close to 6 months of KT being my main game and playing at least 2-3 games and usually more like 4-6 games per week i have yet to see a time when tie breakers have come into play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5286362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Fair enough. I think it may be a tie breaker for Take Prisoners (the one where you get points for taking lone models out in close combat). It means that you don’t need to focus on taking models out in close combat, just make sure you don’t yield any VPs. It may not happen that often, but it’s worth being aware of. Dallo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354498-list-of-all-possible-100pts-necron-lists/#findComment-5290382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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