TrawlingCleaner Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 The Iron Taurans were an idea I've had for quite a while now and something I haven't really actioned outside of a small killteam. The colour scheme isn't original and the concept definitely isn't.General idea:The Iron Taurans are Siege/Trench warfare specialists and have a high level of techmarines/tech adepts. You can probably guess what their progenitors are: Iron Hands and Iron Warriors, what happens when you combine these two? Stubborn, paranoid siege specialists. Not 100% on their background but due to their paranoia they are first to volunteer to throw themselves at the difficult deployments to prove themselves to "more worthy" chapters.After learning of their mixed loyalist and traitor geneseed, the chapter master (yet to be named) constantly tries to prove himself to Guilliman and the Ultras by essentially taking the chapter on a "penance crusade".As they're trench warfare/siege specialists they've modified their armour to have the older mark 3 armour on their left shoulder so they can advance down corridors with extra armour protecting the majority of their chest and face. They use older Mark 3 bolters as A) Rule of cool running a penance crusade means resources are tight, older marks can come in handy.Until I have more lore ready to go I'll be updating this with hobby updates. C&C is very welcome.Intercessor SergeantIMG_20181025_181101IMG_20181025_181112IMG_20181025_181119Anniversary LieutenantIMG_20181020_172001IMG_20181020_172013Captain, still very WIPIMG_20190508_175147 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch83 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Love everything about this. Color scheme looks cool sectioned out the way it is with white and grey-black. Name is awesome. Fluff background is a good one and should give you very themed model building opportunities. What individual name type for characters and the like you thinking? Greek, Roman, etc. If you want some background for your force fighting alongside another, I would be honored to have them fight alongside my Doom Eagles of the 2nd company. They Primarily fight Tyranids with the Ultramarines in my fluff so if you like that idea let me know. Or another enemy works too. Look forward to more updates cousin! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5309795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Nice work Brother Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5309800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshow668 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Absolutely beautiful work. Love the mix of parts and an amazing colour scheme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5309907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 You're a skilled painter. The Iron Taurens' backstory needs editing, though. As Black Library publications limit chimeric (mixed) gene-seed use to Chaos (see Fabius Bile's experiments, which resulted in the Iron Warrior Honsou), Renegades, and near-Renegades (see the Carcharodons in Robbie MacNiven's novels), the Taurens should either be ignorant of the fact they're an Iron Warriors descendant, or unconcerned; in neither case should they condemn themselves to penance crusades in an attempt to redeem themselves for Perturabo's sins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5309942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Love everything about this. Color scheme looks cool sectioned out the way it is with white and grey-black. Name is awesome. Fluff background is a good one and should give you very themed model building opportunities. What individual name type for characters and the like you thinking? Greek, Roman, etc. If you want some background for your force fighting alongside another, I would be honored to have them fight alongside my Doom Eagles of the 2nd company. They Primarily fight Tyranids with the Ultramarines in my fluff so if you like that idea let me know. Or another enemy works too. Look forward to more updates cousin! Thank you dude! On the name front I'm not too sure just yet, I think the Chapter master will be nicknamed "The Iron Bull" and I'm thinking going with Iron Hands naming convention: Gaelic/Germanic I currently have them pegged fighting Dark Eldar (hence the mauled one being dragged by the Intercessor Sergeant) and Renegade Astra Militarum. Killing Heretics and Xenos is busy work, help from an illustrious chapter such as the Doom Eagles is always welcomed Nice work Brother Cheers man Absolutely beautiful work. Love the mix of parts and an amazing colour scheme. Thank you very much mate, I can't take credit for the colour scheme but I can take credit for everything else You're a skilled painter. The Iron Taurens' backstory needs editing, though. As Black Library publications limit chimeric (mixed) gene-seed use to Chaos (see Fabius Bile's experiments, which resulted in the Iron Warrior Honsou), Renegades, and near-Renegades (see the Carcharodons in Robbie MacNiven's novels), the Taurens should either be ignorant of the fact they're an Iron Warriors descendant, or unconcerned; in neither case should they condemn themselves to penance crusades in an attempt to redeem themselves for Perturabo's sins. Thanks Bjorn, I personally don't think it's outside the realms of possibility to say that Cawl didn't mess around with geneseeds when creating the Primaris. He had the time, the resources and more than likely the knowledge to splice geneseeds. Whether it worked well and whether it was a good idea is something I think I'm going to try to explore. On the penance front, I do think that chapters that are from/potentially from traitor genestock tread their ground more carefully than those not. Even mutated chapters are cautious, think BA and SW. I do think that "the sins of the father carry to the son" is something that happens a lot in lore and in the real world. The Lamenters may have been dragged into the Badab unwillingly but they still pay penance, same with DKoK and the White Scars that turned traitor in HH. At the moment my idea is that the Chapter Master and high ranking officials know that they are Iron Warriors and Iron Hands, so they go on "penance crusades" so that if their true parentage was ever to come out they can say that they were nothing but loyal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5309992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerHungryMonkey Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Really nice paint scheme. The spots of blue really pop next to the muted tones of the rest of the models. More please Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5310085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Really nice paint scheme. The spots of blue really pop next to the muted tones of the rest of the models. More please Thanks pal! I'll get on it tonight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5310113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I doubt Cawl would bother to tell the Iron Taurens he used chimeric gene-seed, so the Marines should remain ignorant of the fact they're of partial Iron Warriors descent. A better explanation for the penance crusades would be the Iron Taurens (unknowingly) sharing Perturabo's perfectionism; when a battle concludes with what they consider an "incomplete victory" (Imperial casualties and/or collateral damage too high, enemy casualties too low, victory wasn't achieved quickly enough, the defeated enemy managed to escape and live to threaten the Imperium another day, etc.), the Iron Taurens feel a need to make penance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5310706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I doubt Cawl would bother to tell the Iron Taurens he used chimeric gene-seed, so the Marines should remain ignorant of the fact they're of partial Iron Warriors descent. A better explanation for the penance crusades would be the Iron Taurens (unknowingly) sharing Perturabo's perfectionism; when a battle concludes with what they consider an "incomplete victory" (Imperial casualties and/or collateral damage too high, enemy casualties too low, victory wasn't achieved quickly enough, the defeated enemy managed to escape and live to threaten the Imperium another day, etc.), the Iron Taurens feel a need to make penance. Yeah, I'm in agreement. Cawl was specifically told by Guilliman NOT to use Traitor Legion/Lost Legion geneseed. We all know Cawl ignored that order since he stated he HAD all twenty legions' geneseed. Cawl really wouldn't inform the chapter if their geneseed is chimeric. However, Iron Warriors and Iron Hands do both have stable geneseed, so it wouldn't be obvious that they do have chimeric geneseed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5310717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch83 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I doubt Cawl would bother to tell the Iron Taurens he used chimeric gene-seed, so the Marines should remain ignorant of the fact they're of partial Iron Warriors descent. A better explanation for the penance crusades would be the Iron Taurens (unknowingly) sharing Perturabo's perfectionism; when a battle concludes with what they consider an "incomplete victory" (Imperial casualties and/or collateral damage too high, enemy casualties too low, victory wasn't achieved quickly enough, the defeated enemy managed to escape and live to threaten the Imperium another day, etc.), the Iron Taurens feel a need to make penance. I think this makes sense and thematically keeps with what your planning. Opens up cool story telling options as well. Speaking of that I'll message you a short little back ground on our forces fighting side by side and see if you like it. Cheers Primarch83 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5310775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 I doubt Cawl would bother to tell the Iron Taurens he used chimeric gene-seed, so the Marines should remain ignorant of the fact they're of partial Iron Warriors descent. A better explanation for the penance crusades would be the Iron Taurens (unknowingly) sharing Perturabo's perfectionism; when a battle concludes with what they consider an "incomplete victory" (Imperial casualties and/or collateral damage too high, enemy casualties too low, victory wasn't achieved quickly enough, the defeated enemy managed to escape and live to threaten the Imperium another day, etc.), the Iron Taurens feel a need to make penance. Yeah, I'm in agreement. Cawl was specifically told by Guilliman NOT to use Traitor Legion/Lost Legion geneseed. We all know Cawl ignored that order since he stated he HAD all twenty legions' geneseed. Cawl really wouldn't inform the chapter if their geneseed is chimeric. However, Iron Warriors and Iron Hands do both have stable geneseed, so it wouldn't be obvious that they do have chimeric geneseed. He wouldn't tell them no, but there's plenty of ways to find out I imagine. The 40k universe is a big and weird enough universe that there are plenty of ways to find out what their parentage is. I have a vague idea that they were told by a crone or something while on a mission. They have no idea if it's true but obviously the paranoia kicks in and they start to suspect that's it's true. Here's a lot of pictures of where I've gotten so far with everything, lots to do and tidy up still. C&C very welcome IMG_20190511_123750 IMG_20190511_123813 IMG_20190511_123943 IMG_20190511_123945 IMG_20190511_124135 IMG_20190511_124322 IMG_20190511_124349 IMG_20190511_124356 IMG_20190511_124405 IMG_20190511_124412 IMG_20190511_124422 IMG_20190511_124454 IMG_20190511_124503 IMG_20190511_124515 IMG_20190511_124533 IMG_20190511_124548 Chapter Master: IMG_20190511_123858 IMG_20190511_123903 IMG_20190511_123906 IMG_20190511_123908 He wouldn't tell them no, but there's plenty of ways to find out I imagine. The 40k is a big and weird enough universe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5311438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Your customized models look promising. I hope to see them completed soon. I doubt Cawl would bother to tell the Iron Taurens he used chimeric gene-seed, so the Marines should remain ignorant of the fact they're of partial Iron Warriors descent. A better explanation for the penance crusades would be the Iron Taurens (unknowingly) sharing Perturabo's perfectionism; when a battle concludes with what they consider an "incomplete victory" (Imperial casualties and/or collateral damage too high, enemy casualties too low, victory wasn't achieved quickly enough, the defeated enemy managed to escape and live to threaten the Imperium another day, etc.), the Iron Taurens feel a need to make penance.Yeah, I'm in agreement. Cawl was specifically told by Guilliman NOT to use Traitor Legion/Lost Legion geneseed. We all know Cawl ignored that order since he stated he HAD all twenty legions' geneseed. Cawl really wouldn't inform the chapter if their geneseed is chimeric. However, Iron Warriors and Iron Hands do both have stable geneseed, so it wouldn't be obvious that they do have chimeric geneseed. He wouldn't tell them no, but there's plenty of ways to find out I imagine. The 40k universe is a big and weird enough universe that there are plenty of ways to find out what their parentage is.Most likely explanation, would be an Iron Warriors Warsmith attempting to use their supposed "shared lineage" to lure them to his side- an attempt that will likely result in the insulted Iron Taurens pumping him full of boltshells.I have a vague idea that they were told by a crone or something while on a mission. They have no idea if it's true but obviously the paranoia kicks in and they start to suspect that's it's true.Why should the Iron Taurens believe one word out of a witch's mouth? A better justification for their paranoia would be other Imperial factions demonstrating THESE OTHER FACTIONS suspect the "Iron Taurens are Iron Warriors descendants" rumor is true- say SOMEONE manipulated an Inquisitor into attacking the Iron Taurens and attempting to wipe out the entire Chapter. (See Astor Sabbathiel for one example of a stupidly gullible Inquisitor.)IMG_20190511_123908Is the Chapter Master swinging his axe at an enemy, or using the weapon to point at an Objective? For the former, he should hold the axe as low on the handle as possible, so the axe will build up more momentum, allowing him to hit harder with every swing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5311815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch83 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Kit-bashing looks fantastic, that chapter master will look great painted up. Keep up the good work man. Cheers Primarch83 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5311816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just a small update today, I got another 5 intercessors built and the lieutenant but I'm not too sure on his pose and his helmet. He would be the first model with a Mark 3 helmet on and I'm not sure if he look like he's falling over. any C&C is very welcome. IMG_20190512_210116 IMG_20190512_210147 IMG_20190512_210158 And also a little bit of lore written so far: He checked the map on his heads up display one last time. They were initiating a decapitation strike on the traitor guardsmen who’s command structure were holled up in a well hidden set of bunkers and trenches built into the side of an enormous cliffside. The majority of the Iron Taurans forces were to assault the frontlines of the rest of the traitor’s trenches and emplacements hitting them hard in five different places at the same time. Meanwhile a small strike team would make their way to the command centre. Roorland looked over at the Chief Librarian as he was floating inside the red lit interior of the Thunderhawk with his arms outstretched and eyes closed. He had been told that it took a great amount of effort to be able to hide the heat signatures and sound from a Thunderhawk moving faster than the speed of sound. He wasn’t sure it was even possible but he had been assured that it was, with the smell of burning ozone filling his nostrils the Chapter Master checked his weapons for the final time as the counter on his HUD ticked down to the 30 seconds until touch down. The other marines in the gunship all performed their personal pre battle rituals and 10 green lights flicked on on Roorland’s HUD. 5 Intercessors and 5 Reivers all readied their weapons as the ramp was lowered and the darkness and howling wind rose to meet them. Moving over the ridge that the Thunderhawk had landed behind the marines were met with a wall of mist, instinctively they formed a protective circle around the Chapter Master and Librarian. Roorland could feel something wasn’t right with the mist and Chief Librarian Pelagon confirmed that. ++ This mist is not natural, vox is jammed but will warn the others ++ The mist was getting thicker and Roorland was struggling to be able to see the Marine in front of him. His armour was seizing up making it difficult to breathe and keep moving forward. He could hear whispering that was getting louder and louder until it was deafening. “Brother, Brother, BROTHER” on and on they chanted in voices he had never heard before. He stumbled and the marine in front of him disappeared, as he raised his head back up he was out of the mist and into the traitor’s trenches by himself. At the end of the trenchline an Astarte in silver power armour with yellow hazard stripes turned to face him and smiled. “Greetings Brother” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5313196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 Got a little bit of work done on the Primaris Captain, so far this is only the main colours blocked in a little wash. I still need to come up with a name for this guy. C&C is very welcome. IMG_20190514_063455 IMG_20190514_063500 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5313831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The Primaris CAPT is well-painted. Is his sword from a third party provider? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5314336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 The Primaris CAPT is well-painted. Is his sword from a third party provider? Thanks Bjorn! His sword is from the Foregworld Tartaros Praetor model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5314453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Another small update, I've gotten some suppressors done without the dumb moonboots. The worst part about the primaris range (there aren't many bad things about the range imo) are the damn moon boots on the jump infantry. I had a go at converting some suppressors and I think they came out pretty well. They need some work where the legs join as there are currently huge gaps but I'm definitely pleased with how they've come out. C&C very welcome. IMG_20190515_215134 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5315091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just another small update, I've started converting Azrael for my friend's Dark Angels as he's painting my terrain for me and while he doesn't have any spare money, my payment has been the primaris half of shadowspear (he didn't want money even through repeated offers) and now as a thank you present I'm secretly converting him an Azrael. The arms will be magnetized so that he can be run as a captain etc. IMG_20190517_063440 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5315801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 Double posting but a small bit of lore so far: Roorland Taurí quickly rose through the ranks of the Unnumbered Sons during the Indominitus Crusade. His quick thinking and ability to adapt garnered him the repsect of his fellow Captains and peers. Always leading from the front and storming trenches, tunnels and hive cities alike he gained the nickname “The Iron Bull”. He took wounds few others could and still moved onwards as only a son of the Lord of Iron could. As the crusade drew to a close Guilliman split his forces to create chapters in areas where they were needed most. The Iron Taurans were created and named after their First Chapter Master, before moving his forces to their first assignment he was gifted a relic axe recovered from a time long lost by Guilliman himself. Since then the Chapter has waged war against traitor and xenos ceaselessly specialising in siege and trench warfare. The more the specialised in fighting in tight spaces the more that they augmented their armour and equipment. Large amounts of Mark 3 armour was employed on their arms and shoulder plating allowing them to advance through a trench with thicker armour on their shoulder and arm to take the brunt of the damage. The large rim around the pauldron allows the marine to protect their lungs, neck and majority of their head. They traded out their Cawl pattern bolt rifles with heavily modified Phobos pattern boltguns. Although they lose some of the range of the Cawl pattern, they gain the maneuverability and ruggedness of the Phobos. Having such a short rifle allows them to fire into their foe in tight spaces and easily fire one handed if needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5315956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathus Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Some badass looking marines you have there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5315973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Some badass looking marines you have there! Cheers man! Much appreciated! I'm calling the captain done, really happy with how he's come out so far. C&C very welcome IMG_20190519_151302 IMG_20190519_151308 IMG_20190519_151313 IMG_20190519_151330 IMG_20190519_151344 IMG_20190519_151358 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5316934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Excellent work on the CAPT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5316961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Excellent work on the CAPT. Thanks Bjorn! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355820-the-iron-taurans-updated-2010-full-aop-board/#findComment-5317278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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