The4thHorseman Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 There are no special rules for LR Proteus for post-Heresy 40K. I would suggest counting it as LR Phobos (standard LR). The only problem is that LR Phobos comes with a Heavy Bolter, which is missing on the Proteus. Adding a Multi-Melta is no problem. Generally it goes like this: Land Raider (Phobos) - 297pts (including 2xTwin-lascanon and twin Heavy bolter) Options: -Multi-melta - 22pts -Hunter-killer missile - 6pts -Storm bolter - 2pts LR Redeemer is 284pts (including 2x Flamestorm canon, Frag assault launchers and Twin assault canon) Options: -Multi-melta - 22pts -Hunter-killer missile - 6pts -Storm bolter - 2pts There is such a thing its a Relic Land Raider Proteus, in the FW Imperial Armour Index. It is 264pts no wargear or weapons. With the weapons and all the extra trimmings, and Multi Melta its 335pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Ooooh, good catch! My bad for not scrolling down the list to the 'relic' section So to omplete the above: 305pts for the Proteus with 2x Twin lascanon (default) Options:- Hull weapon (choose one): Heavy Bolter 10pts Multi-melta 22pts Twin heavy bolter 17pts Twin heavy flamer 28pts - Hunter-killer missile - 6pts - Storm bolter - 2pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 There is such a thing its a Relic Land Raider Proteus, in the FW Imperial Armour Index. It is 264pts no wargear or weapons. With the weapons and all the extra trimmings, and Multi Melta its 335pts. Base cost for the relic proteus in imperial armour was reduced in chapter approved 2018 to 225, excluding the mandatory twin lascannon. Optional add-on weapon is one of Heavy bolter, Multi-melta,Twin heavy bolter, Twin heavy flamer; can also add a hunter-killer and/or pintle stormbolter. (can also take an augury web which reduces transport capacity and doesn't appear to have a cost) I don't know what options it actually comes with in the box, but the highest value I think you could equip for ETL purposes (from CA2018) is base + 2x twin lascannon + HK missile + storm bolter + twin heavy flamer i.e. 225 + 2x40 + 6 + 2 + 28 = 341pts. If you go for the multimelta which is 22, it's 335pts, or 17 for the twin heavy bolter totals 330pts. Maxed out 'godhammer' is two twin lascannon, twin heavy bolter plus optional multimelta, HK missile and storm bolter so 200 + 2x40 + 17 + 22 + 6 + 2 = 327 pts and maxed out redeemer is two flamestorm, twin asscannon, plus optional multimelta, HK missile and storm bolter 180 + 2x30 + 44 + 22 + 6 + 2 = 314 pts for a grand max total of 982 pts, or 976pts if you go with the multimelta on the proteus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Our good Captain Semper is being a bit overloaded so allow me to link: +++ETL VII - WEEK 5 UPDATE+++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 WIP time: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 WIP time: I'd expect a mod to have better photography. But really though, excellent seeing the Reclusiarch participate, with Land Raiders, no less. I apologize for not finishing my own vow, I've had a lot going on lately. I hope to finish it soon, but it's not looking good, especially after ruining one of the Tacticals with my first attempt at Contrast Red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Hehe - stacked landraiders. Did that once in a game in 2nd edition. I think a shok attack gun was involved(?) but 3 wrecked landraiders got dumped on top of 1 terminator captain in 1 round. He got pancaked... Good times. Good progress all around though peeps -Zephaniah Adriyen you'll finish when you finish and thats fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Right folks, the grind is on. Now is when we kick on and start to turn the screw. Semper is still due to post the faction summary but we're sat in second on ETL score which is a good place to be atm as at the end of the week it's the half way point already! Focus on the grind and ride the momentum out through August! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 WIP time: I'd expect a mod to have better photography. But really though, excellent seeing the Reclusiarch participate, with Land Raiders, no less. I apologize for not finishing my own vow, I've had a lot going on lately. I hope to finish it soon, but it's not looking good, especially after ruining one of the Tacticals with my first attempt at Contrast Red. Don't be disheartened and try again :) I literally didn't do my characters for almost twenty years as I thought I wasn't good enough when in hindsight I could have always stripped it and tried again. Even super-humans like us Blood Angels make mistakes. What makes us great is to learn from them. You can always post s picture for some pointers if you haven't already :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 As for the points query 1) we do let individual points cost slide for the ETL (as it's a one off usually) and 2) just use Battlescribe!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 +++ETL VII - WEEK 5 UPDATE+++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 +++ETL VII - WEEK 5 UPDATE+++ +++ETL VII - WEEK 5 UPDATE+++ During Week 5 we saw the closing of the gates to new participants and by now the teams are fixed. It is evident that Chaos Space Marines have by far the biggest following with 71, followed by the Space Marines with 53. This is quite an advantage for the CSMs but remains to be seen what they’ll make of it. On a faction level the picture is quite the opposite with SMs having 151 participants and CSMs just 76. Now let’s see Week 5 results at a glance: E TENEBRAE LUX VII – Week 5 Faction/ForumParticipantsVowsPoints pledgedAvg. Vow Completions CRSCRAdeptus Astartes 151 181 115,630 63920,605 17.8% 3,672 Space Marines 536541,938645 7,013 16.7% 1,173Blood Angels 37 4231,267 7446,739 21.6% 1,452 Dark Angels 37 49 23,537 480 5,057 21.5% 1,087 Space Wolves 24 25 18,888 756 1,796 9.5% 171 IFOR 59 73 36,035 494 6,243 17.3% 1,082 Adepta Sororitas 6 9 3,231 359 1,062 32.9% 349 AdMech 11 13 10,081 775 1,67516.6% 278Astra Militarum 22 23 11,778 512 878 7.5% 65 Imperial Agents 6 10 4,957 496 1,518 30.6% 465 Grey Knights 5 6 2,634 439 238 9.0% 22 Deathwatch 8 12 3,354 280 872 26.0% 227 Realm of Chaos 76 85 50,398 593 5,646 11.2% 633 Chaos Space Marines 71 79 45,521576 5,28111.6% 613 Chaos Daemons 3 4 3,684 921 365 9.9% 36 LatD 2 2 1,193 597 0 0.0% 0 Xenos 31 40 21,146 529 5,489 26.0% 633 Aeldari 4 5 3,294 659 121 3.7% 4 Necrons 8 9 4,725 525 320 6.8% 22 Orks 5 8 2,900 363 1,968 67.9% 1,336 T’au Empire 5 8 6,276785 2,235 35.6% 796 Tyranids 8 10 3,951 395 845 21.4% 181 AoD 27 33 48,811 1,479 9,867 20.2% 1,995 AoD-L 14 17 25,139 1,479 6,767 26.9% 1,822 AoD-T 13 16 23,672 1,480 3,100 13.1% 406 Total ETL VI 344 412 272,020 660 47,850 17.6% 8,417 -------------------------------------------------- FACTIONS FACTION: ADEPTUS ASTARTES As expected, the Astartes is the most populous Faction. With 151 participants they have a huge advantage, as is their 115.6k pts pledged – by far the highest number vs. any other Faction. But this must also translate to completions and at the moment, the Astartes have a completion rate virtually at the average of the ETL – so given their superior numbers they are in a good place. However more needs to be done, it’s early and have just the ETL average CR, won’t be enough in the final stages of the event. FORUM: BLOOD ANGELS The BAs have managed a respectable 37 participants getting them at par with the DAs. But they enjoy a much higher average vow that leads to a significant 7.7k pts advantage over the latter. However, they are still 10.6k pts behind the SMs – a significant gap that can only be mitigated through a high completion rate. Currently they have achieved that with a completion rate some 5 percentage points higher than the SMs and that translates to a superior score. However, the ETL is a marathon, not a sprint, and given their limited resources, the BAs must maintain the pace throughout the event. The low re-vowing rate of just 14%, is cause for alarm. We've got a splurge coming soon, get those vows in and their replacements! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacecow Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 In the spirit of the ETL, thought I’d post my finished Blood Angel too ( well we sorta got hungry on the way) P.S. Baal was a blast. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5343968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Ooooh, nasty! :lol: @ Mr. Yellow: I have put you down for 908 pts - pls confirm that this is the correct number. UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas7 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 WIP time! This is what I was able to do over the weekend. I'm hoping to get the base done and start on the arms tonight and hopefully have it complete by Wednesday. The time I invested was only a fraction of the last one or at least that's my perception of how long it took, as such I feel the quality has suffered a bit but I do think it's still a strong finish for my capability. Maybe after ETL I'll go back and think up some heraldry for the shields on the shoulder and ankle and maybe something for the scroll work or maybe even attempt the Carmine Blades icon somewhere. (I'll need to practice on paper a bit before though) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I spagunk rise to the challenge of E TENEBRAE LUX on the side of the Blood Angels and vow to complete one Sternguard Veteran Squad of total value 134 points on or before September 1st, 2019. Success will bring me eternal glory and failure will doom me to wear the Badge of the Oathbreaker until the year-end Vow Complete: Here you see a squad of Legion Tactical Veteran Marines (Sternguard) with combi-plasma purging a world that chose not to become compliant with the Imperial Truth. The great Sanguinius has tasked this detachment with the truly dismal and mournful task of purging a local town of those that would deny the Emperor's grace and care. Truly the great angel weeps for the souls who chose to turn their backs on their liberator and benevolent master! Will try to take individual shots and post them in another thread so you can see what i've done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoridon Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I wonder if I can fit a Hierophant on the base of a Scout... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Ooooh, nasty! @ Mr. Yellow: I have put you down for 908 pts - pls confirm that this is the correct number. UPDATED TO THIS POINT! Sorry, can't count, it should be 956 pts Thanks LM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 P.S. Baal was a blast. Bah, of course it was! BTW, it would be nice if the so called Great Devourer set up a party of his own and invited us for a change. So far it's known mostly from coming uninvited and eating all the good (and bad) stuff I wonder if I can fit a Hierophant on the base of a Scout... Even Epic scale-one is bigger than a regular 40k marine. Unless, you know - puddle of blood: count-as-Hierophant :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 P.S. Baal was a blast. Bah, of course it was! BTW, it would be nice if the so called Great Devourer set up a party of his own and invited us for a change. So far it's known mostly from coming uninvited and eating all the good (and bad) stuff To be fair, some of our "water" ate a good amount of them this time as well. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I spagunk rise to the challenge of E TENEBRAE LUX on the side of the Blood Angels and vow to complete one Sternguard Veteran Squad of total value 134 points on or before September 1st, 2019. Success will bring me eternal glory and failure will doom me to wear the Badge of the Oathbreaker until the year-end Vow Complete: Here you see a squad of Legion Tactical Veteran Marines (Sternguard) with combi-plasma purging a world that chose not to become compliant with the Imperial Truth. The great Sanguinius has tasked this detachment with the truly dismal and mournful task of purging a local town of those that would deny the Emperor's grace and care. Truly the great angel weeps for the souls who chose to turn their backs on their liberator and benevolent master! Will try to take individual shots and post them in another thread so you can see what i've done. They've turned out really well; great colours, poses, and bases to give a really unique SG look which I may consider for my Mk IIIs. Well done! I recall this being a stretch for you but is that you done for this year or is there another possible vow choice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 They've turned out really well; great colours, poses, and bases to give a really unique SG look which I may consider for my Mk IIIs. Well done! I recall this being a stretch for you but is that you done for this year or is there another possible vow choice? I've gone one other item I can throw in. Let me get things together and see what I can come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Progress pic: Hidden Content Ok...how do upload from mobile? I’m on iPhone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Progress pic: Hidden Content Ok...how do upload from mobile? I’m on iPhone Turn the view into normal view instead of mobile. Then go to your profile button and select "My Gallery" from there upload pictures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoridon Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Vow 1 WIP Update: My infantry are mostly done. I have a few finishing touches to put on some of them but I'm about ready to start on the vehicles (Raven, Command Tanks, Dread) - hopefully with the airbrush I can get them done at a decent pace. Plus the final Captain when I decide exactly what colour scheme he'll have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356287-blood-angels-outpost/page/17/#findComment-5344958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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