Kraken Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 It doesn't have the Fly keyword in the Apocalypse datasheets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5336614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I guess I’ll reserve judgment till it’s released. If it’s crap I’ll just use my drill. Here is hoping points+ special rules means it’s a must have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5336658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 The apocalypse data sheet has neither the fly or open topped keywords whereas other units in other armies do (Drukari for example) so it seems like the Skorpius doesn’t have them sadly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5336950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 The apocalypse data sheet has neither the fly or open topped keywords whereas other units in other armies do (Drukari for example) so it seems like the Skorpius doesn’t have them sadly. Which is again OK for me, keeps this thing on the cheaper side Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5336956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Cheaper side of points == expensive on the wallet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5336999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Cheaper side of points == expensive on the wallet. Yep. If it ends up at around 80p, at least in my currency the termite would be less expensive per point. GW has been increasing the prices rather constantly, so I'll only buy this at an independent store with massive discount. Just looked at the apocalypse datasheet - the content restrictions on the transport seem to be the same as on the Terrax - no Cawl, no kataphron, 10 skitarii/secutarii. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5337021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Cheaper side of points == expensive on the wallet. It's why my Forgeworld is decidedly lacking in the Dragoon category. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5337231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Our Forge world has cornered the market in Dragoons , and Ironstriders .... just don't tell my Magos Dominia how much they cost each ... cough .. cough 9 o.O she hates them enough from helping assemble them. I will admit to scouring the market for every used and unloved / broken dragoon ... which has lead to some interesting kitbash's including dark elf lances or vampire counts plastic bits with fulgarite stave tips instead of taser lances.Its part of why there are no Fulgarites on Forge world Synth VIII .... well unless you count very cheap counts as blackstone fortress Dark mechanicum ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5337597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Yeah, dragoons...I've been playing skitarii since release, but until recently I haven't known you could field up to 6 in a squad - only rather recently I got up to 4, so it never occurred to me. But the dunerider looks a lot better than the chicken. I'll definitely get quite a few of those... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5337606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I have 5 chicken walkers and the amount of times they have little bits broken is unreal. Sometimes just in foam. Highlight was a friend getting excited with his tape measure and it flying out of his hand into said squad of 5. The result was akin to a bowling ball unto skittles. Some broken bits yet to be recovered to this day Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5337894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I only own 3 and I so despised putting them together. That said I find them so efficient I’m not pulling the trigger on the the transport until I know more. As it stands I won’t purchase any. I’d just get 2 more Dragoons instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5338803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 As a side note - the apoc datasheet of the Agents of the Imperium has the new rogue traders team on the last page. Grav-gun and eradication pistol confirmed in the profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5338904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Preorder up on the NZ store if you want to take a look: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Adeptus-Mechanicus-Skorpius-Disintegrator-2019 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Adeptus-Mechanicus-Skorpius-Dunerider-2019 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5338947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Boy howdy, I can't wait to see the points on these things! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5338997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 73 points for the transport (65 base + 8 for the stubbers). 111/116 points for the tank (85 base + 6 for stubbers + 0 for missiles + 20 for Belleros OR 25 for Ferrumite). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Also, no fly keyword and no open-topped despite the -1 Toughness. Pretty underwhelming overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Cheers for the points krakjen! Am happy with the transports. Pretty much same price as a rhino but swapping toughness for dakka and a leadership boost to nearby troops (+ access to the autoexplode strat). I can fully live with this playing stygies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Looks good. Fly would have been unrealistic on top the Hover rule. 73p for a fast transport with a dozen shots that's not much slowed down in the first damage bracket is absolutely fine. Cheap enough to get skitarii/sicarians/priests down range. 116p for Ferrumite is good too - with missiles, it's slightly higher damage against all targets than our holy neutronager, trading the invul for speed and +1W. This does fit our skitarii theme perfectly - competent yet still human units, tech guard rather than just steampunk marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Dont forget Dogma and Canticles when comparing the transport with a Rhino ;) I am happy, good pricing imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Yeah, Canticles and Dogma will make this seriously good. I don't think any other army has cheap transports with (shrouded) 2+ armour and maybe -1 to hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I'm pleasantly surprised that my Hoplites can figure out how to get on board. This makes this abundantly clear that Secutarii are more intelligent than Primaris Marines. I am sad that the vehicle wasn't given the open-topped rule but I'm buying it for the collection rather than worrying about special rules. If my army ever makes it to the gaming table it's less special rules for me to try not to forget. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Open topped was unrealistic. Yeah sure, they could in theory fire at knights and flyers, but for everything else they would have to stand on each other's shoulders. Which could hurt, considering where the lower guy's antenna could end up. Still, it will be hilarious flooding the board with 2+ armour transports. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Open topped wasn’t unreasonable to me. I am going to save some money on this one. The only appeal for me that would truly add some minimal value to my army is the indirect fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Open topped would be unreasonable at this points cost, but not unreasonable in itself. While I think the transport itself is pretty reasonable, I still struggle what we would actually like to put in it with the current rules. Meele units are probably still slightly better served by a drill and the ranged units we can put in are mostly too cheap and mobile to bother with a transport. We don’t have the elite ranged squads the rhino can be used to protect, so I fear it will end up like the guard chimera: a nice unit in theory, but not much reason to utilize it. I would gladly pay a big points premium if it was open topped or at least had fly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I'm just thinking: 3 transports full of plasma/cc/... + unit of 4 dragons+ 3 tanks+2 ironstriders laser for cover, everybody rushing on enemies. (stygie?) It doesn't seem too week for me even without T1 and not that expensive. A new way of playing admech...that I'd love. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356639-transport-up-for-pre-order-saturday-29th/page/5/#findComment-5339301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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