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forget about the current problem not speaking french^^ 

 

Whats the exact wording - would be pleased sooooo much.

He says : "I've red somewhere that BT won't be in the IF supplement but in a Vigilus-style campaign book"

 

He doesn't really elaborate further nor provide a source. Further along, someone references Heavy from French Wargaming Studio as saying BTs "will get a supplement".

 

To be honest, there isn't much more there than the same inferences people have been making here.

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forget about the current problem not speaking french^^ 

 

Whats the exact wording - would be pleased sooooo much.

He says : "I've red somewhere that BT won't be in the IF supplement but in a Vigilus-style campaign book"

 

He doesn't really elaborate further nor provide a source. Further along, someone references Heavy from French Wargaming Studio as saying BTs "will get a supplement".

 

To be honest, there isn't much more there than the same inferences people have been making here.

 

Well with Kirioth getting the same information about Templars in a sort of box release (Tooth and Claw was part of Vigilus after all), we could see them in a supplement.

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At least according to the Warhammer Community folks - the Sword Brother specialist detachment is verifiably still valid:

 

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No only that, but the "characters must take a chapter warlord trait" bit was moved to the supplements, which we don't have.

And vigilus only states named characters can't use field commander, not that a named warlord can't take the vigilus trait.

 

So I am running Helbrect with SwordMaster at my next tourney, with prior TO approval due to RAW.

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Kirioth with a rumor of us getting a box set vs orkz.....so maybe there will be more as to what we might be getting

 

 

As said just a rumor

just a romor... and could be wishthinking too.

on the other hand, last year GW released Abbi - THE Chaos boss. Maybe we will see a big boss each year like:

-2017 Gully

-2018 Abbi

-2019 Ghazi

-2020 Vect

-2021 ...

 

That could be possible as Ghazi is a poorly scaled old model.  Also a BT vs Orks is very reasonable but I would think GW would put a different chapter in their over BT as seen by their patterns.

 

If this does line up that would be the point we would likely see some new BT models and characters models to tie into a campaign book. 

 

But this does feel like wish listing over something GW would really do.

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I don't see how our chapter specific rules could be tied to a box set. No previous box set has been tied up in such a way. Rules for new units, yes. But not faction specific ones.

Think DG vs Codex SM 8th ed starter box.  If it is something more then just black and white Primaris models called BT it could have themed rules.  But we have not seen any Primaris models themed to a chapter yet.  I was expecting Blueberries, BA or Wolves to get the first themed models. 

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If there is a box... it will be like the SW tooth and claw. If you dont want to play BT - you dont have to. But it can released in same time as a BT-Supp / rules-development in a Vigilus-style campain book and will include a sprue.

Pretty much this. And hey, if we get a chapter specific lt that'd be cool as far as I am concerned.

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If it follows recent patterns it won't be anything new. I can't see us getting a new Shadowspear so soon. Which means the units will likely be generic, and recent. I.e. Multi-part Vanguard.

 

Be careful what you wish for...

And that is exactly why I’m satisfied with what I have

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forget about the current problem not speaking french^^ 

 

Whats the exact wording - would be pleased sooooo much.

He says : "I've red somewhere that BT won't be in the IF supplement but in a Vigilus-style campaign book"

 

He doesn't really elaborate further nor provide a source. Further along, someone references Heavy from French Wargaming Studio as saying BTs "will get a supplement".

 

To be honest, there isn't much more there than the same inferences people have been making here.

 

 

He didn't say much on this specific message. If you read the whole thread, I asked him if his source was the same who predicted doctrines, +1 attack for marines, the flamer dreadnought etc, and he told me yes.

 

That's why I am fairly confident and reposted it here. Now we just have to wait :wink:

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If it follows recent patterns it won't be anything new. I can't see us getting a new Shadowspear so soon. Which means the units will likely be generic, and recent. I.e. Multi-part Vanguard.

 

Be careful what you wish for...

And that is exactly why I’m satisfied with what I have
Nothing?

 

Nah mate, bring me new stuff whatever it is.

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I don't see how our chapter specific rules could be tied to a box set. No previous box set has been tied up in such a way. Rules for new units, yes. But not faction specific ones.

Perhaps not in the box set itself, but in a campaign book that comes out at the same time? Yeah, that's possible.

 

Then again Shadowspear gave us a whole bunch of Vanguard rules so who knows.

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A small thing, but the Inheritors of the Primarch Stratagem allows you to use the Tactic and rules of the 6 First Founding Chapters, but not Templars/Crimson Fists. It would seem to support the idea that we’re not getting a supplement, so we probably are in the Fists one as a Second Founding unless the Vigilus-style rumour is true.
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If it follows recent patterns it won't be anything new. I can't see us getting a new Shadowspear so soon. Which means the units will likely be generic, and recent. I.e. Multi-part Vanguard.

 

Be careful what you wish for...

And that is exactly why I’m satisfied with what I have
Nothing?

 

Nah mate, bring me new stuff whatever it is.

I mean don’t get me wrong I agree with you I want new stuff....albeit I’m not a huge fan of primaris unless I were to run IF....but like me and you have talked about before I am a huge fan of the Templar knights....and when I came into the hobby and seen the Black Templar’s and that Maltese cross I’ve stuck with them......when I say I’m satisfied with what I have....it’s more or less I’m ok with what I’m getting as long as not forgotten.....I think we can all attest to the fact that truly we rather have little then to be squatted and shelved of who our chapter really is.....I want my 15-20 man squad full of chainswords not bolt rifles because girly man wants to adhere to the old days.....the Templar knights were mere humans who zealotry drove them to extraordinary measures.....as long as I can field my mass units of wrathful knights and burn the witch and slaughter the heretic continuesly....i won’t cry if I get nothing.....if that makes sense to most

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