Marshal Vespasian Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Salt applied. That being said tooth and claw dropped without Wolf specific rules as well around the time they got their rules if memory serves correctly. I was going to get the psychic thingamajig anyways for plot advancement reasons. So if they put our rules in there all the more reason to get it. Primork Gazhgull sounds like blatant wishlisting tho. And whe havent gotten a box since shadowspear so I could see them releasing one before the Christmas battleforces drop. Last year we had wake the dead and tooth and claw. This year shadowspear up until now only. It will be interesting, wether the new kt comes with some New fluff that introduces other places. If memory serves correctly, vigilus was introduced back in the first kill team Box as background fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 The guy writing about the Templar vs Ork box is wishlisting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Shadow spear came out as part of vigilus, Abbadon dropped soon after. BT can be sharing a box set shadowspear style vs orks, and then you have a small supplement like vanguard had, but with BT specific rules. then when the proper book drops Ghaz can be release with it like Abbadon was with Vigilus part 2. Wishlisting? maybe, but possible, certainly. Because it will be Primaris BT, with a char an upgrade sprue and transfers. 90% of the box will be usable by every SM chapter, just like Tooth and Claw. But we have to wait and see now. Fingers crossed my dudes, fingers crossed. I am also partial to new ork boyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I'm sure the inevtiable Nova previews will shed some light on whats coming up - Particularly with 'Psychic Awakening'. I don't really see a place for us in or Orks in that... but then as has been said elsewhere, the Orks/BT box was rumoured at the start of the year. There's a lot of releases still to drop from GW: Impulsor Infiltrator / Incursors Phobos Lieutenant Iron Hands Forge Father Minimum 4 supplements That's a month of releases there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Hey Faith will be tested, the Beast Roars and an Ancient shadow rises/returns. BT and Orks easily fit there. According to rumours supplement releases will be spaced out. Take into account AoS, this will take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Tooth and Claw is perhaps the most useful parallel. I believe it's the only SM box of 8th which featured a faction specific character. I suppose my earlier point is that I can't see our faction rules being tied to a box. But I can see us getting a box like tooth and claw. With any luck, we would then get something like the recent SW start collecting box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Hey Faith will be tested, the Beast Roars and an Ancient shadow rises/returns. BT and Orks easily fit there. According to rumours supplement releases will be spaced out. Take into account AoS, this will take a while. Ok I'm back with you on this! I believe! I keep telling my friends that a reboot of armageddon is round the corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I will believe it when i see it. It'd be amazing, but I'll believe it when i see it. And probably buy 3 boxes should it end up true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Hey Faith will be tested, the Beast Roars and an Ancient shadow rises/returns. BT and Orks easily fit there. According to rumours supplement releases will be spaced out. Take into account AoS, this will take a while. That line reminds me of that bit in TBA when Magnarich's crusade shrugged off the warp spells of an Ork Weirdboy through prayer alone, then when they killed the Weirdboy, all of the orks died in a Kingsman esque shower of gore and brains. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson cowboy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Hey Faith will be tested, the Beast Roars and an Ancient shadow rises/returns. BT and Orks easily fit there. According to rumours supplement releases will be spaced out. Take into account AoS, this will take a while. At least you realize Armageddon and helsreach agian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Could it be three different factions...? Faith - BT (though I feel it would be sisters if they were a bit closer to done) Beast - Ork Ancient Shadow - Eldar? Necron? just a thought. I'd still prefer a full BT supplement :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Think sisters will have a full faction release, not tied to a campaign. Campaign you can easily give stuff to 2 or 3 faction/sub faction. Sisters I believe will get their solo slot. To be fair this is the only proper BT rumour we had since pre 6th edition. So I will allow myself to dream a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Sete you are allowed to have hope and I personally see it as possible but only a low chance if this is something that is to be soon ish. If this is rumor is something without a date I see it as more likely as I do believe the Chaos reboot is the main focus for 8th along with the absurdly slow introduction of Primaris. But GW is also wasting a lot of resources on AOS but it does in theory keep Jervis away from 40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Nah mate, it's fair. I think it's a low chance aswell, but this time the rumours are from people that actually have previous rumours under their belt. So we have to wait and see. But I would be lying if I said I am not excited. But still want to see how this plans out before making an investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Concerning the boxset, the guy on the french forum said there was no Black Templars in it, but a primarised space wolf character I guess ("grey blueish armour with a yellow shoulderpad"), and maybe Gazghkull but he remains very evasive about this one. I don't really believe to a boxset with Black Templars in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Plot thickens. He also says the box would not be for now. Could be a different thing altogether. Why would primaris ragnar be released in between codex space marines supplements? So many conflicting rumours!!! Especially coming from guys that had correct rumours before. Weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Next white dwarf is dark angels so makes sense space wolves might follow. I can't work out why gw would bring out primaris close combat just after a new codex that they are not listed in. Black Templars vs orks makes sense just maybe in six months not two. I know I filled out the community survey twice and i asked for Templars a fair few times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I dont think a SW box while most of SM players are waiting for their supplements is a great decision tho. Eh gotta wait and see ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 They should have had the supplements out one right after another within a matter of weeks not months as what people are saying. Very poorly played by GW even worse if you are a CSM player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I can't work out why gw would bring out primaris close combat just after a new codex that they are not listed in. Sounds suspiciously like a business model. Bring out the new thing so everyone buys it, but leave out the even newer thing so people buy two things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 They should have had the supplements out one right after another within a matter of weeks not months as what people are saying. Very poorly played by GW even worse if you are a CSM player.Or not. One of my mates is a big tournament player, he just tossed a lot of money into a White Scars army "because they are OP". That's how he operates when a new codex pops up : - assess if it is "strong" - buy build and paint an army (airbrush rules) from that codex - proceed to hammer the local tourney scene - sell army - rinse and repeat If in say 6 month the salamanders codex comes out and is "strong" he'll then buy a sally army. You have to understand that people here are not necessarily representative of the overall GW customer base. We here have a faction of choice, but tourney players and a good number of teenage beginners just want stuff that kicks ass. So releasing the codexes dropwise may simply cater to that particular demographic. Remember that when V8 started, SPace Wolves had to wait a year and a half for their codex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 They should have had the supplements out one right after another within a matter of weeks not months as what people are saying. Very poorly played by GW even worse if you are a CSM player.Or not. One of my mates is a big tournament player, he just tossed a lot of money into a White Scars army "because they are OP". That's how he operates when a new codex pops up :- assess if it is "strong" - buy build and paint an army (airbrush rules) from that codex - proceed to hammer the local tourney scene - sell army - rinse and repeat If in say 6 month the salamanders codex comes out and is "strong" he'll then buy a sally army. You have to understand that people here are not necessarily representative of the overall GW customer base. We here have a faction of choice, but tourney players and a good number of teenage beginners just want stuff that kicks ass. So releasing the codexes dropwise may simply cater to that particular demographic. Remember that when V8 started, SPace Wolves had to wait a year and a half for their codex... Ciler so what is new about people with excessive disposable income? This has been going on for as long as I can remember and I have only been enjoying 40k from the early 2000s. Either it is the new codex or unit or super friends or before allies what FW units were broken and allowed in tournaments to the power creep of 5th or assault focused armies of 4th. That group of players I have determined is just part of the gaming culture and I personally don't let it annoy me but everyone has different opinions and personal experiences. I can understand and appreciate your frustration if they have disrupted your gaming experiences. Personally I have stepped away from the high end competitive play with the end of 5th edition. Also the SW comment is just odd were they the last codex to get released in 8th, someone had to be(Orks?)? Heck some editions we could see an full cycle with some of the codexes not even getting a release. The personal issue I have with it is if you play anything but a successor chapter you need to spend an extra $30 for about 5 pages of rules at most (minus blueberries) and only that long as the GW choice of formatting. Also you have the second layer of annoyance knowing that all of this was developed together but needing to wait for your small supplement to be released. This allows the consumer to have the overt price gouging diluted with the passage of time vs if they were all released at once. Think of that friend that owns a few codex SM armies not(SW,BA,DA) and now needs to get multiple supplements. My frustration is not at players wanting to enjoy their game or who should get what first but it is at GW, their slimy sales team and their upper management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2edition Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Right now I like that GW is making books for very specific armies, but it means I only buy the books for the armies I am using at that time, rather than trying to keep up-to-date rules for the entire collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I have no issues paying for a supplement if it means we get better and more rules. It's a better system overall. If you don't like the price then buy digital instead and save 20 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 From Bols (I know). A new boxed set is coming – featuring the Black Templars Orks will be the opponents. Look for it Q4 Look for 2 new plastic HQs in the box. Source: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2019/08/warhammer-40k-rumors-about-that-black-templars-box.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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