Discussion on the new C:SM & Possible BT supplement

[Schlitzaf]

Its only real usage is trolling. Not trolling enough ever waste a WT, and by extension a VP to give to my opponent. But trolling I would be willing to spend a CP for.

[Red_Shift]

So, to add some fuel to the rumour fire, here's a pic my local Warhammer Store (hype, we just got rebranded) posted for a mini available during the shop's anniversary which is due soon :

 

 

• vs ork - check
• primaris with chainsword - check

Now, I'll admit that I'm not following the primaris releases closely and that this pic is about a month old, but maybe there's more to this model than meet the eye.

It's my local store birthday today so I'm heading in to buy that model!

 

There are chainswords on the blood angels upgrade sprue but that's the first one that is designed with chainsword primarily. I find it interesting that tacticus is used for all the special edition models and often with melee weapons but it hasn't translated to a tacticus assault unit yet.

 

If the impulsor had been able to carry 12 or 14 I would have bet on crusader squads coming back but as it is they would be limited in size unless they came with yet another new tank. Hence I am sceptical of any return of Templars rumour in the near future.

 

I do think the codex supplement route is a good way to go for all chapters as it allows kits brought out with a new book to be picked up by most players, which is good business sense. Never did understand why they didn't make cataphracti available to say blood angels from the get go.

 

I could see a character and an upgrade sprue for Templars to test the water but I think it would sell the faction short as really you want the full tabard look.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Not just a shameless self plug of my own painted minis, but here's that mini, and a squad whose sergeant is using the Blood angel chainsword.

There's also a chainsword in the space wolf upgrade, but if memory serves it looked decidedly wolfy, while the BA one is completely plain and suits anyone.

Though really, you can pretty much use mark 7 arms as well because they're very similiar, only the wrists really look different (especially on mk10 arms with wrist computers and the like).

But what we really need is the ability to take the damn things en masse.

[Schlitzaf]

So good news guys; assuming they kept Inheritors wording for IF supplement. We will have access to most of the IF Supplement!

[Sword Brother Adelard]

They usually find some way of keeping us out of the IF stuff. In the first version I think CF could take the IF chapter tactic, but we couldn't.

 

It would be cool for castling days though.

[Marshal Reinhard]

I keep forgetting the one Primaris Marine in the new Codex under our section, is listed as being "Brother Ludolphus, 3rd Crusader Squad, Armageddon Crusade"

 

Makes me reevaluate the box rumors somewhat. It's a litle too on the nose to be a simple mistake?

[AlmightyWalrus]

Isn't the Armageddon Crusade the one that Helbrecht is leading in pursuit of Ghaz?

[redmapa]

If Im not mistaken Helbrecht left a small Crusade in Armageddon before leaving to chae Ghaz.

[Sword Brother Adelard]

I keep forgetting the one Primaris Marine in the new Codex under our section, is listed as being "Brother Ludolphus, 3rd Crusader Squad, Armageddon Crusade"

 

Makes me reevaluate the box rumors somewhat. It's a litle too on the nose to be a simple mistake?

It would be more on the nose if the 8.0 codex hadn't had exactly the same description

[Marshal Reinhard]

Actually that IS the more on the nose thing, if the "mistake" they keep making is just a red herring.

[Sword Brother Adelard]

Next level trolling from GW if so.

[Acebaur]

More likely it's literally just a copy and paste from the first 8th book, nothing more.

[Marshal Reinhard]

But if a box has been in the making, it'd have been planned way ahead, so the text from the previous codex could arguably also have been valid.

 

We'll, know soon enough. I'm still not expecting more than an upgrade sprue and a character (if even that)

[Sete]

Ita gonna be a kick in the shins if we dont get at least 1 model and sprue.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Yes it will

[Sword Brother Adelard]

I was thinking earlier, if Ghaz is coming back, then a BT v Ork box, alongside Primaris Helbrecht really plays into that obsessive narrative they've built around Helbrecht's hunt for him.

[Brother Talarian]

Honestly I’d be happy if we don’t get any new models. It would be exciting if we do, but as long as we have new rules and extra exciting stratagems I’m happy.

 

We can always model our Templar to look bad ass.

 

I’m hoping tomorrow might give us some clarity as to what we can expect.

 

If two new supplements be are announced we can probably filter out some rumours.

If not, still room for speculation.

 

My guess is probably the other space marine kits.

[Ciler]

I don't know if I want a new sprue, to be honest, in so far as our current one is so full of content for 25€ that I fear what's been typically seen (i.e. not even 10 shoulder pads, an arm and a couple of heads for 10€) will be a bit of a let down.

 

But then again, we were absolutely spoiled in that respect. I don't think any chapter ever really got that level of attention.

[Marshal Reinhard]

That sprue is ancient, just like all of our stuff, and needs an update, plain and simple. I'll take a smaller sprue with sharper new details over the old one any day (and if you're afraid the old one will go away, why not just stock up on it?)

[ThirtySixNights]

I stocked up on it! I still love it. can't wait for new models though, I don't care if I'm disappointed.

[Ciler]

That sprue is ancient, just like all of our stuff, and needs an update, plain and simple. I'll take a smaller sprue with sharper new details over the old one any day (and if you're afraid the old one will go away, why not just stock up on it?)

I might not have been clear. You're quite right in saying it's ancient, the gun arms are a poor fit on current models and the details would be better now. But that's not my argument, which was purely on content/value for money. And yes, as you've pointed if I care for it I can stock up.

[Marshal Reinhard]

 

That sprue is ancient, just like all of our stuff, and needs an update, plain and simple. I'll take a smaller sprue with sharper new details over the old one any day (and if you're afraid the old one will go away, why not just stock up on it?)

I might not have been clear. You're quite right in saying it's ancient, the gun arms are a poor fit on current models and the details would be better now. But that's not my argument, which was purely on content/value for money. And yes, as you've pointed if I care for it I can stock up.

 

 

I'm saying I'm willing to take that hit in content/value for money, since I perceive increased value in sharper details and newer sculpts. The increase in quality is that significant.

 

But yeah, our views differ.

[Marshal Rohr]

If they do a Primaris sprue, I’m hopping the rim of the armor have the rivets and reinforcement of the mark 3. Someone has been making Primaris Templars on IG with the Mark 3 Templar Brethren shoulders and procreate tabards and it is out of this world.

[Marshal Vespasian]

Can you Post a link, Rohr? I think there might be mk3 templar shoulders on shapeways as well and this sounds pretty dope

[MarshalMittermeier]

so what are people's thoughts on the slap chaplain?

 

jump pack chaplain w/ benediction of fury (+2 strength, -2 ap, 3 damage) plus Imperium's sword trait (+1 attacks/str) plus mantra of strength (+1 attacks/strength/damage), total cost 90 points? strength 8, ap -2 (-3 if assault doctrine), 4 damage each attack, 5 attacks. plus the relic's mortal wound ability but its very rare to trigger.