TheBigAristotle Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This is very exciting. I'm really glad I've invested in a mostly-fluff Imperial Fists army. I don't care if I keep losing, I just want an identity that's not hampered by points balances for Guilliman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 It's about damn time! Hopefully, someone COMPETENT will write the fluff; Games Workshop's own writers sometimes overemphasize the pain gloves' use, as if they think all Imperial Fists are hard core masochists just one whiplash away from turning to Slaanesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5358382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigAristotle Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 I'm just so happy I stuck with mostly fluffy choices, hopefully our new rules will make bolters extra spicy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5358695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ah this looks quite nice And for those of a more crimson persuasion this also looks pretty sweet So other than our brothers of Zeal we all get extra hits on 6's with bolt weapons which does make me wonder what - if anything - Bolter Drill will now do. As for our more Zealous brethren Seems like a decent improvement to me - but I'm no expert on how they play. Big key thing is the vehicles get CT too now so maximum bolters on the vehicles brothers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5358899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I'm quite glad with the new Chapter Tactics. What's especially nice is that they apply to all units in a Space Marine detachment now. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5358906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Really very good. I think the new Siege Masters is far more useful to the Imperial Fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 And you are having friends on that book. But IF are in the weird position of having 2 sucessors with CT lol Hope Excoriators, Astral Knights, Iron Knights get a mention aswell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Must show... restraint.... Brothers, this looks pretty good, what foul heresy is this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Must show... restraint.... Brothers, this looks pretty good, what foul heresy is this? Stand Strong bruvah! It's the dawn of a new age where the manly Sons of Dorn will take over the battlefields of the far future! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother tycho Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 yeah that hits the spot, ahh well hits it twice on a 6+ ;) I'm happy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Must show... restraint.... Brothers, this looks pretty good, what foul heresy is this? Brother you will laugh in the face of the sorceries of the foul heretics - about 1/3 of the time ;) To be fair they all seem pretty solid upgrades to me. My Crimson Fists might lose a tiny bit of something on lone Characters but they hardly ever need the +1 anyway while exploding hits on any natural 6 is basically Heroes of Rynn's World on all bolters all the time which could really add up over a game with how many bolters I am planning on bringing. Very encouraging so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I’m super excited! And the icing on my daily slice of marine cake is my 6 sets of Twin Heavy Bolters for my centurions arrived today Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5359499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theHiff Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 It seems this applies to overwatch as well, Interesting. Thinking about it some more we may have gotten the second half of the new Ironhands ability’s, they hit in overwatch on a 5 up we get 2 hits for every 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5360018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Oh, seems you guys lost your'e wounding building thing and got a buff for bolters.... Well I like the wounding buildings part of the trait better anyway for IW's.* *Sad iron noises. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5360392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I am having so much trouble deciding which I like more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5360412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Between the Imperial Fists and Crimson Fists CTs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5360483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwyrm Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Do you think the extra hits on a 6 applies to the Fire Raptor Avenger Bolt Cannon? It's not a "bolter" weapon, but is clearly in the "bolt" category... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5360641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Between the Imperial Fists and Crimson Fists CTs? Yeah - I've been building Crimson Fists but a large part of that was my inability to achieve a good yellow. Contrast has changed that. So I can switch while I'm still in the build stage... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5360690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellebras Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Guess my veteran Intercessors won't be burning command points on Bolter Drill any more, that's very nice. Look forward to learning more about our stratagems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5362296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zustiur Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Oh, seems you guys lost your'e wounding building thing and got a buff for bolters.... Well I like the wounding buildings part of the trait better anyway for IW's.* *Sad iron noises. Poor little Iron Warrior, let me put you out of your misery. BLAM Traitor. I have mixed feelings about the Crimson Fist change from double to 5. On the upside, taking a unit of 10 isn't completely stupid anymore but needing to pick larger targets in general means it'll come up a lot less often. It's very rare to see a unit of more than 5 anything in my meta. Then again, I was always forgetting to use the rule anyway. So much so that I was considering dropping the White Dwarf rules and going back to ignoring cover like our brethren. That's no longer an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5367172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 You'll have to remember the boosted bolter drill now instead :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5367182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Yeah I don’t think that trait helps at all unless your shooting at conscripts, boyz, or gaunts. Unrelated note, I hate how my phone doesn’t understand ork speak Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5368061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy-inquisitor Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Yeah I don’t think that trait helps at all unless your shooting at conscripts, boyz, or gaunts. Unrelated note, I hate how my phone doesn’t understand ork speak The modified Crimson Fists CT is a bit more situational than the old one but it still has value. In my local store tournaments the other player on an unbeaten run plays GSC with lots of infantry squads and a huge blob of genestealers. Getting +1 to hit those is really nice, getting +1 to Auspex Scan shoot the genestealers is a significant boost especially combined with the extra 20% bolter hits we get from the other part of the CT. Crimson Fists might be a little over specialised but they are the OG marines so I don't care. What will make or break them as a competitive army will be the combos of relics/strats etc when we get them - not the chapter tactic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5368111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I'm hopeful for a book devoted to the Imperial Fists without too much mention of successors. The Crimson Fists got the index treatment not too long ago and frankly the Black Templars deserve their own supplement and upgrade sprue. I also feel there is enough to fill out a book. Apart from the traditional siege stuff, there is the feast of blades swordsmanship aspect, the huscarls, the follow up to Lysander leading a force into the eye just before the rift happened and IIRC on the original IA for the predator it said IF techmarines had come up with a way to target csm vehicles to sever the symbiosis between machine and pilot. Plenty to fill a book with without zweihanders and witch hating! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5370017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 But Zweihanders and witch hating are the fun bits! You might be in luck. After checking the UM supplement, it barely mentions successors, so I don't expect IF to be treated differently. And if SpanishInquisitor rumour pans out, about BT rules coming out on a Vigilus like campaign book, GW just needs to sort out CF doctrines really, unless they use the same as IF. Due to the fact that the supplements are not coming out in quick succession, It lends me to believe that there might be some truth about that rumour, and this is my assumption, BT rules will come with the psychic awakening campaign around October/November. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357526-were-gonna-get-a-book/#findComment-5370360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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