Raktra Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Already confirmed and shown to be coming awhile back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5366419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 A seperate book, like Ultras and White Scars would be nice. Please excuse grammar, spelling mistakes and suich. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5366550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinkleLord Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I am extremely excited about the changes. I haven't played 40K since early May because everything became so stale. This brings hope again! Personally I can't wait to throw down my Razorbacks and Contemptor Dreadnoughts and laugh as they shake off wounds and ignore a large portion of the damage table! Though I am sad to see Killshot go away (from what I heard) as that was a big strategy I used for awhile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5368365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Both my main 2k list have got significantly better just through the new angel of death, chapter tactics and doctrines cant wait for the supplement. I'm expecting a group overwatch strat, a way to boost the fnp, some devastor doctrine buff, fire twice with heavy weapons strat, a vehicle relic, technomancy discipline, a machine heal thyself strat and this is pure wishful thinking but reanimation protocols(its in the fluff) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5368791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Yeah if I was in GW finance, I would be kicking behinds to get IH contemptor and levi FW models ready lol. You mean this one? http://www.evil-games-shop.de/WebRoot/Store15/Shops/78108884/55F2/E669/37AB/E5C8/1A24/C0A8/2AB9/F85E/Iron_Hands_Legion_Contemptor_Dreadnought.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5369281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I converted Culln the Risen for a HQ. He's filthy now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5369365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Yeah thats the one, Alpha Legion must have destroyed the STC lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5371647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 what do you guys think about predators and ironclad dreadnoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5376028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanhgg Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Had my first game with my IH yesterday. Oh my, what an improvement new dex is. The 5+ overwatch is huge, as is the doctrines. I decisevly won against Death Guard, a list ive never even once won against. Even typhus got killed. Cant wait for supplement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5379105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quasistellar Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I still don't care for predators. I know it's Forgeworld but it take a sicaran any day over a pred of any variety. Vindicators might be good now also when run in multiples. I think ironclads can work as a T8 front line unit that has to be dealt with. I think they're overpriced though and pay too heavily for T8. I'd take an invictor for 17 points more than the cheapest ironclad :(. If ironclads had some kind of movement bonus or something to help them get up the board that would help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5379634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Ironclad plus that half damage strat seems powerful What do you guys think about stormravens with IH CT Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5379754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPurgingInTheRain(Fin) Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Stormraven was always one of the better units in the codex but now it's just simply great. It's nicely tougher with the FNP (you should get around ~3W back) If it's charged by something that can fly it has a big chance of wounding it now that 1/3 of it's many shots hit And it would have to lose 10 wounds (+ the ones you save with the FNP) to be forced to use the second profile of the damage table The doctrines also make it an even better unit. Can't wait to know what ours is Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5380050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The xiphon is a great tank hunter now with doctrines, fire twice strat and the chapter tactics it's pretty durable, and personally with the amount of dreads and tanks I run I'll be staying in dev doctrine until turn 3 at least Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5380235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I can't wait to see how the Iron Hands pan out with the supplement. Such a great chapter with great lore and one of my favourite Primarchs. Would be nice to see them on tabletops all over the place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5380241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radionausea Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The xiphon is a great tank hunter now with doctrines, fire twice strat and the chapter tactics it's pretty durable, and personally with the amount of dreads and tanks I run I'll be staying in dev doctrine until turn 3 at least This is the second time I've seen you mention the fire twice stratagem and I can't see one anywhere (except for Suppression Fire for Whirlwinds and Thunderfire Cannons). What are you referring to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5380292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrick Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 im totally buying a couple stormravens. dont think GW is gonna replace that model soon with a primaris version, best case scenario, in 9th stormravens could transport primaris Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5380877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 My hope is that IH will get a bonus to moving and shooting heavy in the devastator doctrine. I also really hope we get something like the white scars got in that they get their own unique HQ unit other than the special character, like an iron father? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5381002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Stormraven was always one of the better units in the codex but now it's just simply great. It's nicely tougher with the FNP (you should get around ~3W back) If it's charged by something that can fly it has a big chance of wounding it now that 1/3 of it's many shots hit And it would have to lose 10 wounds (+ the ones you save with the FNP) to be forced to use the second profile of the damage table The doctrines also make it an even better unit. Can't wait to know what ours is Those Hurricane Bolter sponsons will be scary to charge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5382587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Anyone hyping for an Iron Hands supplement thingy? I am abit, will you haveto use the Iron Hands chapter tactics to able to use it, anyone have any of those supplements which have been released and can tell? Or can you use custom chapter stuff and still use it? Please excuse grammar, Spelling mistakes and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5382688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radionausea Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I'm excited for it as I've just started my first loyalist space marines army - Sons of Medusa. Reading the Ultramarines rules you have to be Ultramarines or a successor to benefit from the 'super-doctrine'. You don't need to have the Inheritor of the Chapter, chapter tactic so can use the 'pick two traits' one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5382713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I'm surprised none of you are raving about those little rules snippets that have come out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5383546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I'm surprised none of you are raving about those little rules snippets that have come out. What rules snippets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5383730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 - The Iron Father gives units within 6 inches of him a 5+ invulnerable save. - He automatically repairs 3 wounds on any vehicles once per turn - A stratagem allows you to perform the repair action twice; another psychic power allows you to heal up to D3 wounds on any vehicles, meaning you can heal up to a maximum of 9 wounds on a vehicle of your choice. -There is a way to turn a dreadnought into a character Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5383731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Because the person who reported them on FB is clearly untrustworthy. He said the Iron Father is not a named character but WarCom specifically said he was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5383743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 The Iron Hands deal in logic after all, not hearsay A Dreadnought character would be nice, but they're not exactly brilliant currently. Handy to keep it safer from shooting at least. As IFF said, assuming these are true it's pretty much all about healing vehicles which is a bit shallow and boring. A 5++ doesn't do much most of the time either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357545-new-improved-flesh-is-weak/page/2/#findComment-5383839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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