NTaW Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 We now have concrete information on factions involved in War of the Spider: "Along with background on the battles taking place amid the ruins of the Cadia System, the book will include new rules for the Adeptus Custodes, Sisters of Silence and Imperial Assassins. There are also additional rules for each of the seven Plague Companies of the Death Guard and a new Chaos Space Marines sub-faction called Agents of Bile, representing the twisted creations of the Clonefather." I guess this really does leave us with Deathwatch, (maybe Sisters,) Harlequins, and Necrons in the 9th (and final?) PA book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Not sure whether it makes no sense or perfect sense if last PA book is Necrons and then 8.5 starter box is necrons v marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 2:54 PM, NTaW said: I guess this really does leave us with Deathwatch, (maybe Sisters,) Harlequins, and Necrons in the 9th (and final?) PA book. Sisters were confirmed to be getting rules by GW over Facebook. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I wonder if Agents of Bile will get access to Undivided options... maybe I'll reboot my Undivided stuff if they do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 3:08 PM, Zephaniah Adriyen said: I wonder if Agents of Bile will get access to Undivided options... maybe I'll reboot my Undivided stuff if they do. I would imagine that's the case given Bile's refusal to submit to the Chaos Gods. The main traitor legions were covered in Faith and Fury so now we'll see renegade Chapters represented with the 'pick your faction rules' allotment with Fabius as a non-aligned HQ option. Makes me wonder if we'll see Cypher (/Luther?!) and the Fallen represented at some point if Fabius is getting a sort of subfaction status. Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I hope there is actual twisted enhanced marines, not minis but rules. That would fit the Aesthetic of my Hellbound perfectly. C'mon GW I ask you to not mess this up, this one thing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I predict a stratagem or something Bile does (perhaps its something Agents of Bile does). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5497980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 7:54 PM, Slave to Darkness said: I hope there is actual twisted enhanced marines, not minis but rules. That would fit the Aesthetic of my Hellbound perfectly. C'mon GW I ask you to not mess this up, this one thing... Well there already kinda is. The current Bile can already enhance chaos marine units as is. b1soul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 9:40 PM, Panzer said: On 3/28/2020 at 7:54 PM, Slave to Darkness said: I hope there is actual twisted enhanced marines, not minis but rules. That would fit the Aesthetic of my Hellbound perfectly. C'mon GW I ask you to not mess this up, this one thing... Well there already kinda is. The current Bile can already enhance chaos marine units as is. Watch +1 S or +1 T be his entire Chapter Tactic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 9:40 PM, Panzer said: On 3/28/2020 at 7:54 PM, Slave to Darkness said: I hope there is actual twisted enhanced marines, not minis but rules. That would fit the Aesthetic of my Hellbound perfectly. C'mon GW I ask you to not mess this up, this one thing... Well there already kinda is. The current Bile can already enhance chaos marine units as is. Call me greedy but I want more!!!! ;) Minis would be nice but as Fabius himself is getting a resculpt I cant see us getting Enhanced guys as well :( Very curious to see what the Plague Marine companies get as well, kinda flipflopping between Deathguard or World Eaters and this may sway my decision Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrés Pacheco Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 His little Quasimodon't buddy is jacking the insidey-bits of a Primaris, would be cool if you could field some have-a-go hero/DIY Primaris as his retinue. Way too much to hope for a specific kit I think, but maybe some embiggened possessed that were designed to bash well with Intercessors would......also be way too much to hope for :) Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I've quickly read over the "Tales of Awakening" (or whatever it's called) from Saga of the Beast and it has less salient tidbits than previous PA books. Will have a proper read after my morning coffee and see if I can find something more interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 GW seems like it might be slightly reducing the “no specific models, no rules” thing, so I’m sort of wondering if the Bile Boyz might actually give us the first crack at Chaos Primaris. Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Here are summaries of the PA:6 Echoes of Awakening blurbs. I can go into more detail if anyone is interested in a specific entry. Reveal hidden contents Refers to an Imperial citizen stopping a Dark Eldar invasion by herself with crushing displays of psychic power only to turn on the other citizenry once the alien threat was eradicated.Potentially Fabius talking about how the Emperor's works are "truly a marvel" but "flawed on so many levels, they demand improvement. They demand perfection."Blood Vipers Space Marines route T'au forces only to get wrecked by a rising Genestealer Cult and be forced to retreat in defeat.Imperial Task Fleet has been stranded in "space that has not been charted in eight centuries" presumably by the shadow in the warp caused by an incoming Tyranid fleet.Potentially a Custodian speaking of the Death Guard and saying "the bitter teachings of an ungrateful son and the malevolent churnings of the Eye have turned these Death Guard into beasts."A report to an Inquisitor that the Deathwatch have failed to stop an Ork waaaagh and that several companies of Astates have been added to the fight.Imperial troops report engaging Shining Spears and that they were "faster than lightning" and "glowing with blazing light".Report within a local government regarding increased insurrections in the area, looks like either Chaos or Genestealer Cults.Sister of Battle communique saying the planet they're on is on the brink of civil war but lack the numbers to quell any uprisings. Black Templars, among other Astartes, are in vicinity and being notified.Imperial communique about Ghazghkull and the writer's desire to find and stop the beast. Which of Helbrect and Yarrick cruise in a Retribution-class battleship? Edited March 29, 2020 by NTaW Panzer and Aarik 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Last two, are those Vigilus and what of the other? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 So Psychic Awakening is probably leading to a larger change by the "conversion to a new status quo in the setting" than I was really expecting - GW sounds like they are giving themselves some design space on new Eldar, I'd expect some bigger changes with Chaos, especially Marine/daemon blends... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 3:53 PM, Schlitzaf said: Last two, are those Vigilus and what of the other? Nothing is obviously marked Vigilus. Not sure I understand the rest of your question. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 What are the last two stories mentioned about Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Interested in that second blurb - that topic is very, very, very interesting to me. Schlitzaf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 im going to guess Massive speculation below PA 7 is delayed till July. PA 8 is now august PA 9 is sept. the rumored warhammer V9 is delayed til next year Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 8:28 PM, Triszin said: im going to guess Massive speculation below PA 7 is delayed till July. PA 8 is now august PA 9 is sept. the rumored warhammer V9 is delayed til next year For UK/Europe/Australia I'd say that checks out New Primaris chamber could be the big summer push. Its a catch 22 of they desperately want to make up lost profits but people will be broke. They should hopefully get a bit of a bump when they do reopen as people will be low on supplies, have created a wishlist from so much quarantine hobbying Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 3:08 PM, Zephaniah Adriyen said: I wonder if Agents of Bile will get access to Undivided options... maybe I'll reboot my Undivided stuff if they do. Given how much ADB has been telling us about GW saying that Chaos Undivided is Not A Thing, at least in terms of a Mark, etc, I can't imagine them changing again now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 10:14 PM, Lord_Caerolion said: On 3/28/2020 at 3:08 PM, Zephaniah Adriyen said: I wonder if Agents of Bile will get access to Undivided options... maybe I'll reboot my Undivided stuff if they do. Given how much ADB has been telling us about GW saying that Chaos Undivided is Not A Thing, at least in terms of a Mark, etc, I can't imagine them changing again now. What I meant is <MARK OF CHAOS> options - most of the stuff out of Codex: CSM, for example. I'm wondering if they'll be like a Supplement to Codex: CSM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Reveal hidden contents The idea of Ragnar and Ghaz killing each other and then each reviving...is some seriously childish writing. Smacks of the how the Wulfen were handled in a similarly juvenile fashion in Warzone Fenris. Karhedron, Lord Marshal, ShibeKing and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 7:37 PM, Schlitzaf said: What are the last two stories mentioned about I'll provide more in-depth summaries. I imagine we can only guess as to their true meaning though. Reveal hidden contents The 2nd last story is a transmission from Proloquor Selah Astor starting "Sister most honoured, parts of the Choralynth Trace erupt, despite us initially finding nothing of significance. The populace are being stirred to rise by beings most sinister." They go on to talk about the brink of civil war and lack of numbers I summarized previously, and finish with a recommendation that nearby Astartes be notified. Black Templars, Astral Crusaders, ad Griffons of Repentance are named. Shot in the dark: I think this could point to Sisters of Battle vs. Chaos Cults. The last story is marked as an astropath intercept but I'm unclear if the astropath is on a Gloriana- class battleship or the message comes from the ship. Either way this person hates Ghazkhull and has searched in vain across "Sigyrd... the Rathiron Deeps... the Ikogellon Cluster." It seems like a personal log entry since the person seems to be talking to themselves about the variety of bad Ghaz represents, finishing with "He has to be stopped. No matter the cost, he must be defeated." Shot in the dark: I think this is from Yarrick's perspective since the way it's written seems too human to be a Space Marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/63/#findComment-5498808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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