Slave to Darkness Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The whining about the Space Wolve stuff is getting old. It's almost like Space Wolves players don't even like their own faction. You don't see Blood Angels players whine nearly as much about mentioning of blood, angels, rage and so on. Or Chaos players complaining they got shafted every release since the 5th(?) edition codex... I actually like my Wolf army, they have had better stuff than Chaos since forever, and I'd love Chaos (hell even a sub faction I dont collect) to get the whole hoohaa Wolves got at the end of 7th. Most of my GW gripes are down to bad lore and general writing style and Primaris related, and that has been beaten, revived and beaten to death again so no point in banging on about it here. As for people getting upset if GW kills off one character from a faction someone likes, I have a large square base force here I cant even use let alone one named character. All characters going to Primaris means I cant use them (wont use Primaris ever) with my current armies so they may as well be dead to me anyway. BUUUUUUUTTTTT enough doom and gloom, I am actually eager to read Saga of the Beast as Wolves are my main crush loyalist wise and I have loved Orks since 1st ed. I kinda wanna get Ghaz but my loyalties are wiv dem sneeky Gitz in the Bloodaxe Klan and we dont need any ov dem dirty Goffs wiv der Rokk muzik stinkin da place up. RikuEru and Lazarine 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The Feast is written in a really juvenile mannet. Hard to read through despite its short length The original writers back during the early days were great, really sucked me into the universe, now its just like its been written by fanboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 I really hope we also get the Ork parts of the story this week as well, there's been enough buildup (including this week) at this point. In regards to the SW story earlier today, am I supposed to read that as a reason as to why deathwatch isn't in the book? Or are they mentioning this so deathwatch can swoop in the last minute as a deus ex machina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Part 1 of lore info up for wolves. Part 2 up later in the week All text and no models makes Jack a dull boy. Or alternatively, it drives me nuts. I just wanna see Ghaz already. RikuEru and Zephaniah Adriyen 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The short stories are just little throw away short FREE things. Theyre not even written by main lore writers let alone top tier Black Library Space Wolves stuff suffers more than others from non familiar writers but these short stories are just glorified ads Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Considering the quality of most of these short stories I see no reason people can't criticize the low bar that is often shown for Space Wolves fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 New lore is new lore. Do I wish it was better, yeah. But it's new lore and I'll accept it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I guess the vision in the story might be exactly how the book plays out. One wolf lord is killed by Ghaz, to make him dangerous, before Blackmane steps up. Also, 'Celsius' ? Surprising they left a modern unit in and not a gothic version of the word. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytoy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 so how many books do we think are left, and who will be in them? im thinking three more after engine war: A) death guard vs. talons of the emperor - don't know who would get a new model here, both ranges are fairly new and custodes and sisters just got the BL minis B) deathwatch vs. necrons - DW need to fight the last remaining xenos. could see both factions getting a character, be it the silent king or a new DW character C) emperors children vs. harlequins/eldar - big finale, introduction of full EC range? or maybe just bile? are there any factions that i'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Well, on the community page they previewed a model for 40k. It's a mutated looking fellow pulling gene seed out of a primaris marine's neck. Article says he's the main assistant to "The Spider." So, I guess I was completely wrong about War of the Spider. Looks like Fabius is going to be involved and probably getting a new model to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 She rumor said, ec vs eldar in the last book. Plastic warp spiders and fabius So that would put custodes vs necrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 If War of the Spider had meant anything other than Fabius Bile I would have been pretty sad. The third part of his series has him headed to Commorragh, though we've seen Dark Eldar updated already in the Psychic Awakening. Likely Harlequins as an opponent then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Ya, I could see him trying to get into the black library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 If the rumour of emperors children Vs eldar is true. Maybe we get deathwatch Vs Necrons in another book and talons of the emperor/Sisters of Battle Vs Deathguard in another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 It is now very likely that the Haemonculi with the "human but not" followers seen in the Emperor's Children ship is related to Bile. Still doesn't explain the Emperor's Children fleet acting strange, or "The Illuminator is coming", or all the other mentions, but that one has all the signs of Bile now that he's confirmed. I can't wait for the practically inevitable Fulgrim cameo in that book. "Hey Fabius my baby boy I'm back from the pleasure planet, come join us for a bit of fun?" "Nah". :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 deathwatch vs. necrons - DW need to fight the last remaining xenos. could see both factions getting a character, be it the silent king or a new DW character I have heard a rumour that Necrons are getting a new Illuminor Szeras. As always take with a hefty pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 deathwatch vs. necrons - DW need to fight the last remaining xenos. could see both factions getting a character, be it the silent king or a new DW character I have heard a rumour that Necrons are getting a new Illuminor Szeras. As always take with a hefty pinch of salt. I've heard this one too a fair amount, would line up with the "Illuminator is coming" line imo Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Unless its bile vs necrons, with so e scheme for fulgrum to transition easier to and from the warp using his Clone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I've heard this one too a fair amount, would line up with the "Illuminator is coming" line imo That line came from an Emperor's Children ship, it's about Fulgrim, "The Illuminator" is one of his (many) titles. It also mentions a "grand canvas" and an "endless carnival of sensation". I don't think Szeras cares much for art and pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) I've seen some hopes getting up online about an EC codex because of Fabius but between his status as a pariah in his own Legion as well as his focus on his New Man project (basically to push humanity to a higher level of existence by any means necessary) I don't see it. Honestly I suspect we won't see any codexes drop until June at the soonest and depending on new faction rumors we could be seeing something new or something Ork drop first. I'm starting to cross my fingers for a Catachan vs Ork starter but I know that's wishlisty as heck. Edited March 10, 2020 by Fulkes Red_Shift 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Catachans would be off the scale level of awesome for me. Vs orks would be great. I was wondering about this rumoured small scale army release rumour. Catachans with their jungle fighting rules/shenanigans would fit the pattern. If fabius enters the webway I wonder if the custodes/silent sisters could be an opponent for them? There was a hint about expanded rules for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 It is now very likely that the Haemonculi with the "human but not" followers seen in the Emperor's Children ship is related to Bile. Still doesn't explain the Emperor's Children fleet acting strange, or "The Illuminator is coming", or all the other mentions, but that one has all the signs of Bile now that he's confirmed. I can't wait for the practically inevitable Fulgrim cameo in that book. "Hey Fabius my baby boy I'm back from the pleasure planet, come join us for a bit of fun?" "Nah". The "human but not" stuff has been known to be a Vect plot since Phoenix Rising. Nothing to do with Fabius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) The "human but not" stuff has been known to be a Vect plot since Phoenix Rising. Nothing to do with Fabius. Really? What was it then? And was there a reason for them to be on an Emperor's Children ship? Edited March 10, 2020 by DeadFingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 So Fabius is definitely getting an update, and possibly the Emperor's Children as a whole. Very cool. Vs. Harleys would be good for me, now that I have some, so I'm excited for that too by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) The "human but not" stuff has been known to be a Vect plot since Phoenix Rising. Nothing to do with Fabius. Really? What was it then? And was there a reason for them to be on an Emperor's Children ship? Vect had his haemonculi devise a way to turn Drukhari into almost exact copies of humans, and started using it both as a way to punish people, and also to seed misinformation into Imperial worlds/forces. A drukhari spy will give itself away from appearance alone. A spy fleshcrafted into being human? Well, you could fill the vital crew of an enemy ship with these without much difficulty, and then have them sabotage it at the opportune moment. Basically, it's the fluff explanation for the Agents of Vect stratagem. It's described in the "Ghodri Falsehood" insert in the Dark Eldar fluff section. Relevant parts below: The Prophets of Flesh, those who studied under the demented flesh-sculptor Urien Rakarth, had devised a new punishment - to take a transgressor and reshape them, melding their mortal clay until they looked, walked, and even smelt like a human being. All Drukhari found this horrifying, for to them a human form was ungainly and ape-like, a cruel mockery of a biped in comparison to the lithe and alabaster-skinned Aeldari anatomy. This was a horrific punishment for a people so vain and haughty as the Drukhari, and those subjected to the treatment cried out that they would do anything at all to have it reversed. In these 'false humans', Vect saw opportunity - one so twisted and sadistic that Urien Rakarth agreed to orchestrate it on his behalf. It then goes on to describe the Drukhari successfully attacking a meeting of the Ynnari with the Alaitoc representatives by seeding these false humans into the Imperial Guard of that planet, and having them influence the Imperial response. Edited March 10, 2020 by Lord_Caerolion Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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