Dark Shepherd Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Question is how how do you get all that close up the board successfully and close together without clumping up most of your army? Itd be an interesting tactic to build an army around but itd be totally hit or miss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5371780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Reivers have S4 and no AP with knives hmm i must have misread the book i swore they had a stratagem that gave them +1S AP-1. bah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5371813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Reivers have S4 and no AP with knives hmm i must have misread the book i swore they had a stratagem that gave them +1S AP-1. bah. It's the assault doctrine, no? Something we don't get Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5371818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 So what are people's thoughts on the upcoming SW Codex? If the WD DA back cover is any indicator, we should as players get ready to start brainstorming our guess thread for the subforum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 So what are people's thoughts on the upcoming SW Codex? If the WD DA back cover is any indicator, we should as players get ready to start brainstorming our guess thread for the subforum. don't do it...save yourself the disappointment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Not to be a Debby Downer, but I second Tigurius on this. When we brainstorm we come up with great ideas to make our chapter awesome and well balanced. GW does not brainstorm before making a codex. Period. Full stop. And even if they did they would still come up with different ideas from what we would end up thinking we needed. This will inevitably lead to disappointment. Better by far, IMHO, to wait with low expectations, and be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 If theres 4 more months of supplement releases than even if we got a WD rules article let alone new codex we'd be waiting about 6 months Id say Outside chance they do the 3 non codex codices in December 2 years after Angels ones were released Id be more hopeful of chapter approved for litanies/ doctrines and also a lot of points decreases eg dreadnought weapons, wolf claws, wolf guard pack leaders esp terminator, named characters, rune priests, scout bikers, beasts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Our codex is so new I just can't see us getting a new one or supplement any time soon... Even a WD article seems unlikely to me. I'm modelling Thunderhammers on all my Intercessor Pack Leaders though, worst case they're used as Power Fists. The way they've bought out the Primaris stuff it was always going to become messy at some point, unfortunately we're just bottom of the pile. At some point soon a Primaris release will come out that's codex only and then the Angels and Wolves might get their own units after that, that'll be messy as well. I also suspect for us Wulfen will just get the Primaris keyword and that will be our unique unit! Either that or the non codex chapters will just be rolled back up a la Black Templars. Less books so less money to be made there though, and that's been talked about lots elsewhere. For now just enjoy the little boosts and keep hopes low. I don't think personally things are all that bad at the moment (friendly meta here though). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Our codex is so new I just can't see us getting a new one or supplement any time soon... Even a WD article seems unlikely to me. I'm modelling Thunderhammers on all my Intercessor Pack Leaders though, worst case they're used as Power Fists. The way they've bought out the Primaris stuff it was always going to become messy at some point, unfortunately we're just bottom of the pile. At some point soon a Primaris release will come out that's codex only and then the Angels and Wolves might get their own units after that, that'll be messy as well. I also suspect for us Wulfen will just get the Primaris keyword and that will be our unique unit! Either that or the non codex chapters will just be rolled back up a la Black Templars. Less books so less money to be made there though, and that's been talked about lots elsewhere. For now just enjoy the little boosts and keep hopes low. I don't think personally things are all that bad at the moment (friendly meta here though). While it is new, it has never been patched or updated. And like grey knights, patching us won't fix us. They only way to fix wolves and grey knights are through a new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I'm waiting for Nova to see if they preview DA, and that will be what I base my expections on. I'm not worried about the codex being super competitive, I really just want more fluff on successor chapters and how primaris fit in. Granted I think shock assault and the buffs we picked up are a big help. That said I don't think wishlisting would hurt, I've posted on alot of fixing marine threads and alot of the new rules are really close to some of the suggestions that posters made on this forum. I think our biggest gripe when the codex came out was that they knew marines stunk and then made us wait for a codex that was designed along side them, and basically didn't work on it (they added better warlord traits via pdf) so maybe they will learn from that. In addition I don't think it matters when our book was released if they know we need a new one. The only reason to hold off is for new models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I am hoping for point adjustments at chapter approved. Otherwise I think we are in for a wait. Hopefully they give us that much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 IM all for speculation and wishlisting, I think its healthy and I think GW does read forums like this one. will it have an immediate effect? no, but it might down the road. I say if anyone wants to speculate/wishlist on a 2.0 dex go into the 2.0 speculation thread and post away! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluescope Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I don't have any confidence in GW. They completely ignored all SW-specific units and equipment in CA2018. The author of our book even forgot there are three kinds of storm shield in his book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 GW did leave us hanging with the codex release. But after a certain date any codex released after that did not get included in CA 2018. It’s not like they’re we’re dissing us. A lot of codexes weren’t touched. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Yeah FLG said anything from Knights onwards was too late for CA Robin Cruddance said on Voxcast too that it takes 9 months from them to finish writing a codex/book for it to be on sale My grievance is the original Saga of the Wolfkin warlord trait was way better before they changed them all :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357675-time-to-reassess-sws-to-get-an-faq-soon-maybe-supplement/page/2/#findComment-5372923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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