Did Ferrus Know? (Possible Spoilers)

[Aothaine]

Did Ferrus know that the emperor did not view him as a son, but as a tool of war? I'm just curious because Guilliman seemed to be kind of devastated when he realized this.

 

"Rest? We were not made to rest; we go on, unflinching, unstoppable, unending in our strength. The Emperor did not make us for such mortal concerns as hearth and home, vanity or contemplation; we are his engines of war, his hammers, beating out the fabric of existence into a vessel fit for Mankind to inhabit."

— Ferrus Manus, as quoted in Shadow of the Gorgon by the Remembrancer Czel Atternus

[Morovir]

I think it was less that he knew any grand revelation, and more that he simply did not see his purpose as anything more than a general, which he admittedly excelled at.

 

Basically didn't know, didn't care anyway.

 

He was a rarity amongst the primarchs in that he was content with his lot under the Emperor, and wished for nothing more that what he was already used for.

Edited September 12, 2019 by Morovir

[MegaVolt87]

I think Ferrus was one of the few self aware primarchs, to consider realities like this. I think the Khan was also kinda the same way, he knew his place and tried to get as much leeway to do as he pleased as possible while meeting his obligations and oath to the Emperor. Looking at it from a social stand point, they are the independent kids who need little validation or recognition from their parents and can still function normally as a result. Ferrus wanting to be Warmaster to me was more of him showing he was better than his brothers by being promoted, more than recognition from the Emperor. 

[Lord_Caerolion]

I think the native attitude of Ferrus, and all Medusans, really, just didn't encourage warmth and affection. Their society was far more utilitarian and saw everything not doing its duty as dead weight. Ferrus took this attitude even further, seeing hardship as purification, that weakness was literally death. I don't think he didn't see himself as the Emperors son, he just knew that he also had a duty to fulfill. He isn't there to tell the Emperor how his day went, and sit down for a nice family meal, etc. The galaxy needs to be saved, and he's one of 21 beings in the galaxy that's actually capable of overseeing it. 

[mertbl]

When Corax went to Terra to get the gene seed knowledge, didnt he stay in like a primarch sized apartment? I thought he had said there were 20 of them. Like at some point the emperor had intended for them all to retire on terra after the great crusade.

[Iron Father Ferrum]

When Corax went to Terra to get the gene seed knowledge, didnt he stay in like a primarch sized apartment? I thought he had said there were 20 of them. Like at some point the emperor had intended for them all to retire on terra after the great crusade.

The supposition is that they were supposed to grow up there. Remember, Big E didn't *want* the Primarchs scattered throughout the galaxy; Chaos did that to screw with his plans, to get back at him for snookering them on whatever bargain he (according to Magnus) made with them to empower the embryonic Primarchs in the first place

[Aothaine]

 

The supposition is that they were supposed to grow up there. Remember, Big E didn't *want* the Primarchs scattered throughout the galaxy; Chaos did that to screw with his plans, to get back at him for snookering them on whatever bargain he (according to Magnus) made with them to empower the embryonic Primarchs in the first place

 

Hold up. So the Primarchs are warp entities?

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Warp-infused. When Fulgrim loped off Ferrus' head, there was a Return of the Jedi-style release of energy and a Banshee wail, if memory serves.

[Aothaine]

Interesting indeed.

[Lord_Caerolion]

Yep, the way they've been described is that they're almost like a perfect daemonhost, one that's utterly, fully merged with the host flesh. That seems to be why so many of them had strange abilities, it was their link to the Warp "leaking" out.