Ascanius Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 THESE ARE KNEE JOINTS! Dreadnoughts can walk just fine! Never speak to me or my almost-but-not-quite-dead son again. painting.for.my.sanity, Deadman Wade, CaptainFrederickson and 16 others 19 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagoth Ur Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Y'all takin' about knee-joints and stuff, meanwhile I'm over here 'mirin' that thigh-gap. ImperialTuba, shandwen, Aothaine and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 How can anyone ridicule that honest stumpy boi? Not everyone can be interred in a nice leggy contemptor or buff Levi. jeremy1391 and Quixus 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Of all of the hills to die on, this is the correct one. Frater Cornelius, SickSix, apologist and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yes, they are - and the hydraulic pistons between the knee and ankle plate should be able to push in and out to balance the feet on various angled surfaces, etc. If the struts between the "hip" and central "pelvis" had sliding grooves with various locking slots interior in them, they could also push in and out to stand the legs more upright, etc. Stumpy should be quite capable of ascending stairs by raising the femur structure at the knee as well - but the running speed might be a little questionable... Is there more to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yes, they are - and the hydraulic pistons between the knee and ankle plate should be able to push in and out to balance the feet on various angled surfaces, etc. If the struts between the "hip" and central "pelvis" had sliding grooves with various locking slots interior in them, they could also push in and out to stand the legs more upright, etc. Is there more to this? Iirc, a recurring 'complaint' about the Boxnaughts is that "their legs are too short" or "they can't walk with such stumpy legs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Iirc, a recurring 'complaint' about the Boxnaughts is that "their legs are too short" or "they can't walk with such stumpy legs".That I've known for a long while, they do look quite comical, but is there anything more than the obvious to discuss here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Helbrutes don't need knee hydraulics. We just use fleshmetal. Prot and Llagos_Tyrant 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 They need to upsize the legs by about 20-30%, honestly. Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I have a one year old. Short legs at that age but she can really move with a fast waddle. I imagine that’s how those little dreadnoughts move. A fast waddle (that just dares the enemy to laugh.) SickSix, MegaVolt87, Knightsword and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Oh ya he's every bit as mobile as a centurion. Dracos 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 It's probably a retcon, but the short legs are explained in the HH series, as the box-naut was designed for ship boarding actions and such, so its as armored as possible while still fitting inside an STC ship corridor. After you get the reactor, all the armor, and the weapons, and the life support pod for the marine, they had to cut something down to size, and well, the legs were left. But hey, you don't need to run fast, when you can kill everything when you get there. (I love the box-nauts, theyre so iconic to 40k for me) Sandlemad, Panzer, Sword Brother Adelard and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 Even GW staff talk about how dreadnoughts can't really walk and it's nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Even GW staff talk about how dreadnoughts can't really walk and it's nonsense. Or how Jes Goodwin said about the imperial knight - "The only suspension it has is the suspension of disbelief". It looks like it could work, but if you were to calculate it in detail, it wouldn't really work. A boxnaught looks like it maybe could work in a limited way. A contemptor/redemptor/levi looks a lot more like it could work. Suspension of disbelief has its limits, and the boxnaught is at that limit (or over it, depending on view). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Even GW staff talk about how dreadnoughts can't really walk and it's nonsense. Doesn't this come out of the Dawn of War cutscene where they allegedly had to slightly redesign the box-naught to animate it? Nobody ever said they literally didn't have knees. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 For values of "nobody" that excludes dozens of people on the Internet I've personally seen, much less everyone who perpetuated the meme that dreadnoughts can only waddle. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I think what it comes down to is that Dreadnoughts waddling is funnier, and, if you look at them from the front, looks entirely plausible. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Got to admire the commitment to Leg Day! Zephaniah Adriyen and librisrouge 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Finally a voice of reason. Edit: Just noticed that Dreadnoughts have more range of motion with their feet and lower leg if they walk backward. Edited November 4, 2019 by Aothaine librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilyth Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Now all we need is an image of a Redemptor dread pointing at that image while holding a redemptor fist protectively over a boxnought, captioned with the ominous line. Then we'll be able to finally stop dreadnought legshaming once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Submitted for your approval. The somewhat not waddle. https://youtu.be/UsSia3cM4c4 Zephaniah Adriyen, Exilyth, ImperialTuba and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 My problem I have is that like most things in 40k the scale of the model doesn't match the art or the fluff. See here for a reference https://40k.gallery/img/40K-artwork/40K-Gallery-0300.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 My problem I have is that like most things in 40k the scale of the model doesn't match the art or the fluff. See here for a reference https://40k.gallery/img/40K-artwork/40K-Gallery-0300.jpg I feel ya. Took us decades to get close to correctly scaled space marines and people threw fits about it. Can you imagine if they resize vehicles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I feel ya. Took us decades to get close to correctly scaled space marines and people threw fits about it. Can you imagine if they resize vehicles? People threw fits about the, "We're not replacing Marines...but we actually are just slowly and not saying that we are" thing. Not about the scale. SickSix and Captain_Krash 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 People threw fits about the, "We're not replacing Marines...but we actually are just slowly and not saying that we are" thing. Not about the scale. Perhaps. I'm in the camp that was excited about the new line though. Love that Primaris play like Space Marines should have always played. They are tough and hit hard. :D But yeah. Dreadnoughts have knees. Schlitzaf and Zephaniah Adriyen 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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