lokkorex Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hey, so I'd like to convert a pair of models representing The Either and The Or, but I've never read the first Horus Heresy books, so I don't know what Verulam Moy is armed. Tybalt Marr has rules, so I can just go by that, but could someone who has read the books what he carries. A sword? Axe? Bolt Pistol? Any idea what mark of armour he carries? Would be grateful for any help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I'd imagine a sword and bolt pistol; the Luna Wolves captains seemed quite similar in that regard, but as a relatively senior captain it's quite conceivable for him to use an axe as well (Torgaddon uses one when sparring with Loken). If you want to make a fluffy addition which doesn't appear often in HH, Abnett was quite fond of having the XVI use combat shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Thanks for the feedback, if nothing else comes up I'll propably arm him with a combat shield, pistol and axe. But if anyone has read his encounter with, and subsequent demise at the hands of, Eugen Temba, I'd appreciate any extra info! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 False Gods mentioned that Moy and Marr were conducting sword drills, and frankly those are the only close combat weapons (aside from a dagger or two) that Luna Wolves astartes get mentioned with early on. And the line captains I think all wore their new MK IV plate from what we saw. There seems to be a bit of a departure with Black book vs. novels, though: on one hand the novels had one or two mentions of Luna Wolves with gladius style blades (Abaddon was said to have a monstrous two handed greatsword, as did Aximand with Mournitall) while the Black Books said that was an Ultramarines thing, and the Luna Wolf officer cadres typically had longsword style blades. If you haven't read at least the first 2 HH novels, you reaaaaaaally should. They're good books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 He spars with a sword in False Gods and wears Mark IV. I'd model him with the same wargear as Tybalt Marr to play up their resemblance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Great! Thanks for the information people! Thinking if I'll mash together the mk.iv command set with reaver bits I should have some decent representation of the Either and the Or. PS. Could anyone explain why Tybalt Marr and Little Horus seem intent on killing each other on the cover of "The Either"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morovir Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 They're sparring on the cover - it's just after the events of Dwell after Aximand gets his blade repaired. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 We'll agree to disagree on False Gods. I think there's a precipitous decline in quality between the first novel and that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Googling him comes up with an image presumably from the later re-issues shows Mk4 and an arming sword styled power weapon when he was fighting on Davin. Personally i always lked the idea that senior Captains had a selection of weaponry to play with if they didnt have some signature named weapon or similar tbh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5433546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle captain corpus Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Googling him comes up with an image presumably from the later re-issues shows Mk4 and an arming sword styled power weapon when he was fighting on Davin. Personally i always lked the idea that senior Captains had a selection of weaponry to play with if they didnt have some signature named weapon or similar tbh. This does fit as it would be quite common during the Crusades for Line Captains and senior officers to have had a small collection of trophy weapons and personal weapons, depending on the Legion obviously. Personally I would err towards a more ornate combat sword with a boltgun. Bolt pistol as backup weapon. BCC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5434502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Admittedly a little further up the ladder, but Abaddon and (I believe) Sejanus have been seen rocking artificer armour and TDA at different points. Also Argel Tal is mentioned as possessing a personal armoury which would put dedicated collectors to shame, and AD-B implies that this is typical for a praetor of the Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360126-wargear-of-captain-verulam-moy/#findComment-5435171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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